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They couldn't resist breaking the rules lmao, but face no consequences, besides being mad about it

Israel has threatened to withdraw from this year’s Eurovision Song Contest if organizers decide to reject its entry amid wider calls for the country’s exclusion over its military campaign in Gaza.

The European Broadcasting Union is currently reviewing the lyrics of Israel’s entry, a song called “October Rain” by Russian-Israeli singer Eden Golan, which is thought to reference the victims of Hamas’ Oct. 7 attacks. If the EBU decides Israel has breached its rules by submitting content deemed political, the body will allow it to submit new lyrics or a new song.

Israel’s Public Broadcasting Corporation earlier said it has “no intention to replace the song” if it is not approved, warning that it will pull out of the contest scheduled for May in Malmö, Sweden. Israel’s culture minister has stated that while the song reflects “the current public sentiment in Israel these days,” that doesn’t make it “a political song.”

Israel became the first non-European nation to compete in Eurovision in 1973, and has since won the competition four times.

read more: https://www.semafor.com/article/02/27/2024/israels-controversial-eurovision-song-entry

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if it is not approved, warning that it will pull out of the contest scheduled for May in Malmö, Sweden.

you can't ~~fire me~~ give me a second chance, I quit (this contest)!

Russian-Israeli singer Eden Golan

not a good time for this person to be political. Triple whammy (Golan heights is a controversial location)

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

I feel like she might have been chosen specifically because of the triple whammy. Allows them to cause more outrage and then cry about being a victim.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 75 points 6 months ago

Israel’s Public Broadcasting Corporation earlier said it has “no intention to replace the song” if it is not approved, warning that it will pull out of the contest scheduled for May in Malmö, Sweden.

Narcissistic nation think their presence is such a blessing that pulling out of the contest is deemed a "threat" 🤦

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 57 points 6 months ago

Oh no Israel... Don't threaten us with a good time.

[–] luves2spooge@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Israel is not even in Europe

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 months ago

Honorary colonists.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most Israelis are just immigrants from Europe/US. Even the singer in this article is actually Russian. Netanyahu's real name is Mileikowsky. He graduated from Cheltenham High School outside of Philadelphia.

Their current president Isaac Herzog is the first Israeli President actually born in Israel. His mother is from Egypt and his Father is from Ireland.

Given the nature of Israel's foundings this should be not terribly surprising. Israelis are just whites from Europe and The US.

[–] noobnarski@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Skin cancer must be pretty prevalent in Israel.

(Like it is in Australia)

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 19 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Eurovision has very little to do with being in Europe. Even Australia is in Eurovision, and they are definitely not in Europe.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey don't blow our cover we have them tricked.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

Oi cunt don't dox me

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

They should call it Europe ‘n’ Friends.

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[–] tree@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 months ago

It only has to do with being an ebu/sister org member which many arab states are eligible to compete, but refuse to do so since Israel is in it/ in some cases having laws preventing the broadcasting of anything Israel was involved in making.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Russia was banned from Eurovision for much less. Truly a hypocritical and racist world.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Russia did invade another member state, which is a bit of a no-no

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Did they kick out Britain and friends for invading Iraq?

What about France and friends when they invaded libya?

Invasions are only bad when they don't conform to the Western imperialist agenda :)

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Iraq isn't a member. Libya is but I think Libya actually joined only after fall of Gaddafi and the France thing.

Invasions are only bad when they don't conform to the Western imperialist agenda :)

Invading another member is always a bit of a no-no if you ask me.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ahh, sorry I forgot the part that humanity and ethics end at member states. I totally wouldn't expect a Euro fan to make that assertion :)

joined only after fall of Gaddafi

Wrong. 1974.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Russia did invade another member state, which is a bit of a no-no

Smh. I did specifically talk about invading another member state, as you can see.

Wrong. 1974.

Ah, I just looked at this part of the article article and didn't notice this part about past members, where Libya is again. Indeed France and others did a no-no there. It's bad form to attack (not just invade) other members and should be grounds for suspension.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I did specifically talk about invading another member state

Yes, I noticed from the very beginning. That is exactly the hypocrisy I was addressing. :) humanity and ethics must not stop at member states. I actually did not know Libya was a member either until you mentioned it (and googled the date).

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if it came through (I tried with calling it a "no-no") but my reply wasn't entirely serious.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I realize I misunderstood now. Non native speaker here 😅

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

Sounds like they think Israel's inclusion is make or break for the competition.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Call me cynical, but I reckon they fully expect to get booted from the show and are intentionally milking the situation for propaganda purposes back home.

[–] stillitcomes@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is a pretty common take in Eurovision discussion boards atm.

EBU doesn't want the controversy of taking a stance on the I/P conflict, but most Eurovision fans are pro-Palestine and a lot are threatening to boycott if Israel does compete. And KAN (which is in charge of Israel's entry) obv doesn't want the humiliation of a guaranteed last place and potential harassment/security issues for the musician they send. Giving Israel the boot over the song (which, if you read the lyrics, is actually pretty subtle on what it's referencing) is a win-win for everyone involved.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

To many, even valid criticism on reality itself can be labeled as anti-semetic if it can quiet any valid criticism on anything they want.

I agree. It is a win-win. They stay, they get what they what, plus free victimhood PR... if they get kicked out, is not because they broke the rules, it is just because blatant antisemitism. They will twist it into victimhood PR, anyways. Prove me wrong.

Staying withing guidelines was never an option.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

IDK nothing indicated they would be booted, they pretty prominently announced they wouldn't be restricting Israel from competing, to much controversy at that

[–] Ixoid@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Don't threaten me with a good time

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 27 points 6 months ago

Just fucking do it already. Man they sure like to make bad publicity lately.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Guns and Roses gonna sue for song title plaigarism

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wow, thanks for kicking yourself out, guys. Now we don't have to worry about the weird vibes when you're up and get booed.

[–] m13@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Both Israel and Eurovision can get fucked.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the problem with Eurovision? I'm OOTL.

[–] m13@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m saying fuck Eurovision for including Israel in the first place with the ongoing genocide. They should not be invited.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Perhaps we should not leave judgement to fucking eurovision lmao.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

"You're not breaking up with me, I'm breaking up with you" vibes, it's pathetic

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do they care? Eurovision voting is heavily politicised, which is clear to see when you look at the UK getting continuously pounded during times where it did things Europe disliked (war in Iraq, Brexit), and Ukraine winning during the war, with the UK suddenly doing well again. If Israel send someone, they're going to spend several hours waiting around while they receive nil point.

[–] gentooer@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago

While Brexit definitely didn't help, the UK entry was objectively really bad that year.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why is Israel considered part of Europe?

[–] charleroi2@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

It's not. Even Australia is in Eurovision

[–] corymbia@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The source itself makes me angry for purposely misspelling ‘semaphore’.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What if... Imagine one second... That semaphore.com was taken? Just a wild though I know

[–] corymbia@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

It’s my personal bugbear when perfectly good words are misspelled purposely.

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