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    Why can't I just buy it without being charged for preinstalled spyware? (lemmy.world)
    submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by TimeNaan@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    Shopping for a laptop as a Linux user:

    Screenshot from the Simpsons where Otto is talking to Marge and Homer standing next to a window in their house with a caption "Oh wow, windows!... I don't think I can afford this place."

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    [–] wfh@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

    Here in the EU there are a few companies selling rebranded Tongfang or Clevo barebones without an OS. Some are Linux-oriented like Tuxedo, Slimbook or LaptopmetLinux, some are general-purpose or gaming oriented like Schenker/XMG.

    Slimbook Elemental 14 start at around 600€, Tuxedo Aura 14 starts at around 840€ for what looks to be the same SKU but a bit more storage.

    Where are you located and what's your budget ? It might help point you in the right direction.

    [–] ghostface@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Check out system76

    https://system76.com/

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

    A little overpriced but nice hardware and support

    [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

    I've got a System76 Pangolin. It's ok for the price (a bit pricey).I'm going with frame.work next though - while frame.work is even pricier, the upgradability is to die for.

    [–] MalReynolds 7 points 8 months ago

    Oh wow linux laptop, so cheap, while I appreciate their existence, if you're on a budget an old (t480,t440p) lenovo will do fine for most purposes, otherwise build a desktop.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

    Last three laptops I've bought, the Windows install never saw the light of day.

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Buy used ThinkPad.

    [–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

    Even new Lenovo laptops can usually be bought direct without Windows

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    [–] chevy9294@monero.town 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I had 2 (actully much more) options when buying my laptop. Good laptop with windows or a liitle better laptop without windows for 200€ less.

    It's sad when you figure out why most people are broke.

    [–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I would say "install unregistered windows, run MAS," but unfortunately we can't expect that to be common knowledge. And, if it were common knowledge, MAS probably wouldn't exist anymore either.

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    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/

    https://slimbook.com/en/kde

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    [–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Lenovo has official support for Ubuntu on all laptops which translates very well to other distros. IMO the Thinkbook gen 6 having fully upgradable ram and decent specs is a really good deal for a Linux laptop *when on sale

    [–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Yet they don't sell laptops without windows in my country.

    [–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Buy a second hand machine, try before buying, choose a ThinkPad. Mine is going strong 5 years now, daily work driver.

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    [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Are you only looking for a laptop? Others have said a lot about it. I want to add that in desktop\net-top\mini-pc markets it's easier to encounter no-OS solutions. Some of them are very cheap and small, that small you can mount them behind a monitor and call it a day. I'm sorry if it's not up your lane.

    [–] produnis@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago

    Check out TUXEDO

    [–] const_void@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Get a Framework. You won't be disappointed.

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    [–] nopersonalspace@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    You could try getting a Chromebook and installing whatever distro you want on there? I know it doesn’t avoid the pre-installed spyware, but at least it’s free so you’re not loosing money paying for a license. And Chromebooks these days are made in a wide range from very inexpensive to sorta-premium.

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