A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
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Date Created: June 15, 2023
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Not really the best metaphor, as in Monopoly you actually start with money. A better analogy would probably be something like: Imagine you're playing Monopoly, but you don't have any starting money and all the properties are already bought up. Every time you pass go and collect $200, $180 of it immediately goes to the rich. That is how most people live their lives.
If anything it's pretty telling that the game only works if you can play like a rich person: start off with a bunch of money you didn't earn and the bank is always nice to you.
If the bank treats you like a poor person you just lose.
Except starting money it is quite good metaphor though.
Is it though? Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but the way I'm reading it is "Most people don't make money because they aren't investing their money". If you do a search for the group mention in this picture (David Henning Mindset), you get a page for a financial advisor. Both of these are leading me to think this post is referencing the "grind" mindset and how "you need to invest your money" to not be struggling.
Is this the idea that antiwork subscribes to?
Nice work. Obviously the sentiment has been coopted by that group, but the metaphor when interpreted sanely holds.
Oh lol i even haven't noticed that watermark with name :) if you will look at it from that angle it becomes awful and completely misleading :) workers struggle because the only thing they have is their labour / skills and in return they get only the amount similar to reproduction costs. So basically important to mention that there is no way you can buy something from monopoly desk on your salary ever.
Hmm, you've got a point. The lesson Monopoly is designed to teach isn't "make sure to invest your money," it's "land-grabbing is evil and landlords are parasites."
Characterizing this metaphor as "'grind' mindset" is maybe a stretch, though.
Whoever thought this metaphor works to explain the "grind mindset" is dumb and completely missed the point of monopoly.
They accidentally made the anti-work argument.
Honestly, the real problem is that there’s anything you can buy for under $200. The starting money is based on however much generational wealth you have, with most starting with only $200. And if we look at the $200 as the amount you need to get by in a year (one trip around the board), you’d have to get exceptionally lucky to ever buy anything of substance, just like in real life.
Didn't the woman who came up with monopoly create it to teach the flaws of capitalist thinking? Then some guy stole it from her and capitalized. Classic.
The game was called The Landlord's Game patented by Elizabeth Magie. Further information on the relationship between it and monopoly has its own Wikipedia page here: History of Monopoly
Oh cool thanks, I knew someone would link it. I'm kinda lazy (:
That's the point of monopoly, You start off with the same assets as everyone else, and though no fault of your own you slowly lose it as one person takes advantage of the opportunities that you didn't get, like landing on the best properties etc. Eventually the point of monopoly is that 5 of says 6 players end up going round the board, never quite dying, but never being able to progress, at all. That loops is whole point of the game. The hopelessness.
Now irl you don't start of equal. You actually start of even more disadvantaged then your opponent, so monopoly as a game makes an even more damaging point, that even in optimal conditions, capitialism is stupid.
The properties were all owned before I even got to roll the dice for the first time. Ahh being a millennial is chefs kiss
The point of monopoly was literally to show how bad capitalism and monopolies where. It was created as an educational tool to show what happens when too much real estate is owned by monopolies. It was never meant to be a "fun" game. It was originally called "The Landlords Game".
That's why the game was created, to show how the system is rigged and all the money finishes up at the banks.
Like in any good game of monopoly, we need to rewrite the rules
Theft is legal if no one notices
Landing on Free Parking gives you the whole pot. It should be an official rule and would definitely cut down on my fights like 30%.
Fediverse is step one
Step one to what? Not going back to jail...?
Rewriting the rules.
Ok all from the scratch. Imagine you are playing monopoly, but there are 2 social classes : the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. And you are the 2nd one, you have NOTHING but chains and debt, so you are working hard till your death and all money you get is just enough to pay to the bourgeoisie, because everything is owned by them. There are 2 ways to quit the circle : jail or death. That is how most of people live their life
It’s closer to reality but the thought experiment sucks because anyone can see there’s virtually zero chance of completing a single round. :(
One more nuance I don't see mentioned in this thread yet:
If everyone plays like a communist, and nobody buys property--you just roll the dice and pass Go every so often--everyone's money increases forever.
And then the BANK needs to borrow money
Lol technically the rules of monopoly state the bank never runs out of money
I do hope this train of thought continues to propagate. It's the same train of thought that was pervasive in France, 1789.
It kept coming back over the next century as France tried different things (the Terror, installing the Bourbons, killing some Bourbons, etc) and whenever people noticed that capitalism wasn't being stable and people were hungry, sick or miserable, the cracked the guillotines out for more piles of heads.
I've never played monopoly, but I think I get the premise lol. "Don't pass go" is all I can tell you about the game... and I don't even know what it means
like the corporate world, the game is rigged towards the ruthless, selfish types. I never really understood how it was supposed to end. Everyone goes bankrupt and one person ends up with all the money is how it always went at our house growing up. If you lost at monopoly consistently to your sibling as a kid, you’re not the capitalist
Sometimes flipping the board (aka abolishing capitalism) is your only option.
Bibles of truth right there. Love it..
This is right, the last player standing wins. A game with 4 people shouldn't take longer than an hour tops. People like to play with house rules that tend to drag the game out way longer than it needs to.