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- The Abolition of Work by Bob Black (1985) | listen
- On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2013) | listen
- In Praise of Idleness by Bertrand Russell (1932) | listen
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Not really the best metaphor, as in Monopoly you actually start with money. A better analogy would probably be something like: Imagine you're playing Monopoly, but you don't have any starting money and all the properties are already bought up. Every time you pass go and collect $200, $180 of it immediately goes to the rich. That is how most people live their lives.
If anything it's pretty telling that the game only works if you can play like a rich person: start off with a bunch of money you didn't earn and the bank is always nice to you.
If the bank treats you like a poor person you just lose.
Except starting money it is quite good metaphor though.
Is it though? Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but the way I'm reading it is "Most people don't make money because they aren't investing their money". If you do a search for the group mention in this picture (David Henning Mindset), you get a page for a financial advisor. Both of these are leading me to think this post is referencing the "grind" mindset and how "you need to invest your money" to not be struggling.
Is this the idea that antiwork subscribes to?
Nice work. Obviously the sentiment has been coopted by that group, but the metaphor when interpreted sanely holds.
Oh lol i even haven't noticed that watermark with name :) if you will look at it from that angle it becomes awful and completely misleading :) workers struggle because the only thing they have is their labour / skills and in return they get only the amount similar to reproduction costs. So basically important to mention that there is no way you can buy something from monopoly desk on your salary ever.
Hmm, you've got a point. The lesson Monopoly is designed to teach isn't "make sure to invest your money," it's "land-grabbing is evil and landlords are parasites."
Characterizing this metaphor as "'grind' mindset" is maybe a stretch, though.
Whoever thought this metaphor works to explain the "grind mindset" is dumb and completely missed the point of monopoly.
They accidentally made the anti-work argument.
Honestly, the real problem is that there’s anything you can buy for under $200. The starting money is based on however much generational wealth you have, with most starting with only $200. And if we look at the $200 as the amount you need to get by in a year (one trip around the board), you’d have to get exceptionally lucky to ever buy anything of substance, just like in real life.