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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] MrShankles@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well... damn. I'm mid-30's; Tech is (definitely) kind of a hobby of mine; and I use Linux for learning, experimenting, and... uhh, tech hobby stuff lol. I can solder a little, and sometimes it actually works!

Maybe it's because that cohort is the fastest to adopt. We grew up with a rapidly changing internet, we're kinda used to navigating the glitches/unfamiliarity, and it's just more familiar (to us) in a "back-to-basics" way. I feel like I've entered a nostalgic "place" that has become better since I last visited.

With Memmy for ios going full-live, the multitude of 3rd party apps at full throttle, and Facebook ready with "Threads" - this just seems like the first wave of what could be a hell of a storm. The content will increase and diversify, that's inevitable now.

The question is: do people want to be responsible for maintaining a user-controlled platform? Or would they prefer an operator help to connect us? We'll see, but I guarantee there will be some fresh af memes coming through here in the mean time, so no worries

Hell, while you're here... throw some of those old ass memes (or almost any pic you've got saved on your phone) onto !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Be the change you want to see and shit

Or don't, it's not like anyone can really judge you when you're anonymous... but you'll know. Months from now, when you're lying in bed, unable to sleep because you were complicit in the apathy; you'll wonder if it could have been different. You'll try to bury the intrusive thoughts and "what ifs", but you'll always wonder...

"Could it have actually worked? Might we have taken claim to a piece of independence in the future of world communications?!"

... and the thought slips away, as you mainline another 40 min of memes directly into you're neurotransmitter reservoir, for sustenance and maintenence

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

chuckles in elder millenial at 30 years being considered "older" 🤦😂

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[–] code@lemmy.mayes.io 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30 is just a baby. My son is 30. Im late 50’s.

I think older techies are just sick of all the bullshit regarding corporate aocial/web etc. A lot of us went to linux to escape windows hell for same reasons. Tech is abused to unfathomable levels so we do what we can to limit it.

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[–] wtry@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I'm a younger tech nerd, but I do use linux.

[–] Fickle_Ferret@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Ill take it as a compliment to be considered among such folks.

[–] notExactlyI20@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'm 24 and while I do use Linux, I'm nowhere close to an expert user, so idk what to tell you man, other than fuck spez and fuck Reddit I guess.

[–] UnicornKitty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mostly fit that description. While I understand what you're saying, we all have other interests on top of this. That's what makes it diverse.

Personally, I feel like a more mature audience is needed. I have never liked the feel of places like Facebook, tiktok, etc. Let me have one place where I can pretend the world isn't overrun with stupidity. There is actual conversation on topics to be had, and people aren't jerks to others for no reason.

The fediverse is somewhat complicated to understand. Maybe like usenet or other such places.

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[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Age 16 here. I'm getting old, eh?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Hey, I'm not old!

Shit, wait, yes I am.

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago
  • I'm under 30
  • I use my PC for 3D render art as a hobby but otherwise I'm not a tech enthusiast
  • I don't use Linux.

With that said, early adopters are often tech enthusiasts. As the user base grows, so will the content and diversify itself.

[–] merryflag0655@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think more average users have just never heard about lemmy. At least it's like that for most people in my social circle.

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[–] BigMike@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the federation system is quite a barricade for some people. I recently changed over to Lemmy from Reddit, and it was quite challenging to first understand how it worked. Also I am not sure that I even now understand how this works fully.

Also the smaller community on Lemmy might be a turn-off for some people.

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm 19 if that works for you, just following wherever people go.

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Yup. That's me.

[–] brayd@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

I am younger than 25, but I’m a Sys-Admin.

However my mother also uses the Fediverse and has nearly to none technical knowledge.

Also my cousin who’s 15 uses it. And some friends of mine who are between 18 to 26 use it without being what you typically would call a nerd.

So I think for the majority it applies but there are also people here not fitting in this sector.

[–] sour@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

am teenager

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why it's less toxic? No teens?

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So exactly what Digg and Reddit where to begin with. The tech people are first and then everyone else comes over. Only this time I think the everyone else are staying on Reddit.

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[–] mawp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just passed into the 30 and older crowd yesterday, and created an account a few days before. Thanks... :(

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[–] StinkyDave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I left Reddit because I like browsing on my phone while pooping. They took that away from me.

If YouTube forces me to remove AdBlock, I'll leave that too. And if Windows 11 forces me to create a Microsoft account then I'm moving to Linux.

But yes I'm 39, I run a tech repair shop, but I'm not on Linux... Yet.

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[–] Crow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I’m single as a 24 year old woman.

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[–] Roggie@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was like “NO!” And then I remembered that I’m 25 now so…. Kinda :/

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[–] AirZone@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well.. I'm 36 yo physician, an orthopedic surgeon resident. But I do LOVE tech&gaming. I want to switch from reddit because my favorite app boost stopped working and the creator is developing a boost app for lemmy. Oh and the official reddit app is just shit. I do hope lemmy will get bigger.

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[–] Capricorny90210@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Generalization of course, but the younger generation isn't always as tech savvy as one might assume, and I'd imagine they prefer the easy "sign in and scroll" apps

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[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Am I too young? My age is 19-22. Oh now I think about it, there is no teenagers community. I feel old for being here.

As for tech enthusiast, maybe. I'm always impressed with open source software, but I don't understand coding.

Linux user? Well I played around with Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and Tails, but at the end of the day, I still switched back to Windows just because how much they've dominated the world. It's hard to find programs for linux, especially games. Wine doesn't always work, Virtual Machine is just too much of performance degregation. Maybe Linux isn't meant for me.

What's keeping young people away is kids these days just like to use things that are already popular. iPhones, Nikes, Instagram, TikTok, Youtube. None of my classmates from high school know what Linux is, know about the Snowden leaks, think iPhones are the best because everyone else is using them (I'll admit, I fell victim to peer pressure and got an iPhone, but now I switched back to a Galaxy so I can install apps without a corporation approving it, and I gave the phone to family.), wants 200 dollar shoes, constantly on mainstream social media in class, disrespect teachers even the nice ones. I mean kids these days just don't care, they want to have fun with minimal effort, they aren't gonna spend 5 minutes to try to understand the fediverse.

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[–] deviantkhaaos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Just so we are clear.. Reddit was the same, likely before your time. But sites like Digg and Reddit were for nerds but over time it brought in other 'communities' in a forum type style. Build it and they will come. (also you're likely too old for that reference too, but its all good) I like the less 'normy' experience.

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