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Judge Engoron Takes Parting Shot at Ivanka Trump (www.newsweek.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Reverendender@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world
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But god forbid we prosecute a wealthy white woman for perjury. That would just be beyond the pale.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 89 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In addition, Engoron ordered an independent body to monitor the Trump Organization for the next three years. However, he didn't cancel its business licences, which would have effectively shut down its activities in New York.

Referring to the defendant's behavior in his 92-page judgment, Engoron wrote: "Their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological."

He later added: "The frauds found here leap off the page and shock the conscience."

Maybe if you are calling someone's fraudulent actions borderline pathological, take away their business license. Just a suggestion. Nobody gives a shit that you are officially insulting them if your punishment is not backing that up.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is what makes zero sense to me. How the fuck can the court determine that they committed fraud for decades and show no remorse at all, in fact the lied and doubled down and then the fuckers basically get a telling off!?!? All the courts and judges have treated trump far more leniently than he deserved when he's deliberately turned his appearances into circuses and showed complete disrespect to the courts.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think the general answer is to avoid any chance of mistrial - they found him guilty of SO much, and didn't let their "bias" over punish him.

Even 350million hurts him, and he still lost.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

they found him guilty of SO much, and didn’t let their “bias” over punish him.

No, instead they under punish so the mere implication of Trump getting a fair sentence doesn't inflame his moronic base.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Taking aim at Ivanka, Engoron wrote: "She consistently denied recalling the contents of documentary evidence that confirmed that she actively participated in events, even after she was confronted with the evidence."

He later added: "The Court found her inconsistent recall, depending on whether she was questioned by OAG [New York attorney general's office] or the defense, suspect. In any event, what Ms. Trump cannot recall is memorialized in contemporaneous emails and documents; in the absence of her memory, the documents speak for themselves."

Seems like she didn't inherit her father's "perfect memory".

[–] HedonismB0t@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago

I think she got a Trump family genes for perfect memory, just look at how she's able to selectively forget events on demand, just like her dad. It's pretty well documented that the Trumps have a memory condition where they selectively forget things as soon as they're asked to raise their right hand

[–] quirzle@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems like she didn’t inherit her father’s “perfect memory”.

Sure she did.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why wasn't this brought up by the prosecution? 'oh you don't recall? I thought you had a perfect memory as you repeatedly stated before this trial. Are you lying about that or about this?"

[–] quirzle@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A few seconds past the timestamp I linked:

As good as my memory is, I don't remember that. But I have a good memory.

So you don't remember saying you have one of the best memories in the world?

I don't remember that.

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 3 points 9 months ago

Heh. Can you imagine if Biden said "I don't remember" about anything. We'd have wall to wall news for months wondering about dementia. Fuck we have that news even if he doesn't say it.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"I would like to show you this clip where you said exactly that"

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

We need to start bringing these cheap giant TVs to his “rallies” and queue up all the stupid lies and contradictions he’s said on camera and play them on repeat.

[–] waigl@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

*perjury

Purgery would be intentionally inducing vomiting on oneself to empty one's stomach.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

Still adjusting to SwiftKey. I'm cool if they force her to vomit though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Don't worry, I won't hit your precious little wrist very hard when I slap it."

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She was taken out of the trial because of the statute of limitations had run out, not because she wasn't guilty.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago

The statute of limitations of her previous business crimes is not the issue. She committed perjury regarding those crimes DURING THE TRIAL THAT JUST ENDED. It's a brand new crime!