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What does "vaguely European" even mean?
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That's how I'd describe Tommy Wiseau or John Waters lol
Gillian Anderson in her later career also.
I would have never thought about it, but somehow you're exactly right.
Haha, I have no idea. Possibly less corporate, more "small, simple, open system that others can contribute to".
I can only speak in vagueness on the "european-ness", to be honest.
HASS/Zigbee have an open, european feel to me.
HomeSeer has a very american "this is the way we're doing it, it costs this much" feel.
My mind went to IKEA-like with a funny name and modern styling.
But I have no idea if that's what the author meant.
A wall plug came with a Schuko adapter...
I had the same thought. Is it an insult?
I don't think so.
I think it just means they seemed like standards which were more prevalent in Europe, meaning support might be better for Euro hardware, or that the (presumably) American market was leaning in a different direction.
What i have a problem is the developer accessebility.
I want to build my own sensors into boards and use those, but the devboards are so expensive, its not worth it.
A board with an esp8266 costs just 1-2€, with zigbee its 20-25€.
Might aswell go for the new esp32 versions now and use thread.. and its still cheaper.
(though that wasnt an option a few years back, best option there was esp-mesh which kinda sucked)
esp32-c6 (supports zigbee), is pretty cheap.
If only ESPHome had support for Zigbee on the C6 and H2. So much potential for cool projects.
I agree, I'd be picking up a bunch of those, if that were the case.
I've never actually tried doing dev on a zigbee board. A cursory glance puts them at £6.
But I can absolutely understand why ESP is so much more popular. Which is a shame, as I like not having to mess with wifi/BLE.
Try getting a Zwave devboard 😅
ZigBee and Z-Wave are awesome because they stay functional irrespective of:
- WiFi
- Router
- Internet
- Cloud
So long as the Home Assistant is alive, everything works. The reliability and uptime approaches the AC mains.
And they allow for battery powered devices to have multi-year battery life.
The internet and cloud points are my favorite. Specifically the fact that those things are out of the picture.
No VLAN configuration necessary. The hub is "the VLAN". They literally can't phone home because they have no route to the internet, with no extra setup necessary. For WiFi devices, I have to make sure they're connecting to the right VLAN and controlled properly, and if I misconfigure something, they are phoning home or joining a botnet.
(This stops being as applicable if you have a sketchy hub you don't trust, but I trust deconz and ZHA fine enough in this context).
Same here. Not having a path to the internet by default is lovely. Local data stays local without any extra config.
Exactly. Which allows you to use devices from any vendor without having to worry about the preloaded botnet agent. 🤭
Until Zigbee2MQTT breaks again ;P
Using ZHA for a year and a bit. No breakage so far. Knocks on wood.
ZHA isn't compatible with a lot of recent Hue bulbs. It's a bit frustrating.
Oh really, like what? I have a few E26 models and two strips. I haven't tried any others.
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Still hopeful that matter and thread get ironed out. It's the standardization the systems need: no more "download tuya to install"
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Offline control
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standardized setup
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Low energy optimized
Currently I have to run a few different bridges to keep everything happy. Zigbee2mqtt is definitely my most used.
It's funny, I'm eyeing up an air conditioner atm.
And the one I'm focussing on looks pretty special, not because it runs tuya, but because absolute gods in the FOSS community have made a complete alternative firmware for it that works with HASS directly on the tuya host hardware.
Don't download Tuya. 😂
correct
If a smart home app is required I'm out
Matter and Thread aren't being forced because they think consumers don't care enough to wait. There are too many people who will just buy "smart" anything, without regard to which proprietary app they need to install.
The market is there. Look at Nanoleaf sales.
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