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that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back (slrpnk.net)

submitted 9 months ago by stabby_cicada to c/textsfromsolarpunk

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I dislike how we have moved away from utopian shows to dystopian content. Even the new Star Trek content is all about being in a crisis.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess people are looking for sci-fi that feels realistic. :(

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah and, I'd rather watch the Orville, than feel miserabel about the future. Or rewatch TNG

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Early Discovery was, yes. Strange New Worlds feels a lot more hopeful.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of how much I appreciate MacGyver never used a gun, or stories where beating the bad guy means transforming them rather than killing them or besting them.

[–] ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Upvote for the Thompson quote alone

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Wondered if anyone else caught that.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/313271-it-seems-like-a-lifetime-or-at-least-a-main

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website -5 points 9 months ago

A fantasy show, but yeah.:-)

[+] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de -9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but if he killed a person during this he still should answer for it.

Edit: what is it with the downvotes? If someone killed someone, they have to answer for it, no matter if mentally ill or not. If they are non-violent but mentally ill, they deserve proper treatment of course.

[–] stabby_cicada 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The "answering for it" part is where the character is confined for mental health treatment.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but he'll be confined for life regardless (barring any miracle scifi cures, which won't work in the real world). Also this places emphasis on the stereotypical "violent mental patient" and glosses over the 99% of people with mental illnesses.

[–] stabby_cicada 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you not think people can be cured of mental illness in the real world? It does, in fact, happen all the time. Including with the stereotypical violent mental patients.

And if someone commits crimes while mentally ill, and then is cured and poses no threat of reoffending, what purpose is served by keeping that person confined?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It isn't that easy with the justice system in most countries. You also don't know when someone is "cured" and when they aren't posing any threat. It just isn't that simple.

[–] stabby_cicada 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Of course it's not that simple. That's why, after people are institutionalized and treated, they're gradually given more and more freedom in structured settings - eg halfway houses, work release, house arrest with family - to make sure the treatment is working and the person is ready to be a functional member of society again.

It works that way in a country that actually cares about people, anyway. No guarantees if you're in the United States.

But the point is - or should be - that punishing people for acts they're not responsible for is both cruel and meaningless. The mentally ill person, once cured, shouldn't remain confined as punishment for crimes he committed while ill. The criminal, once rehabilitated, shouldn't remain confined for crimes he committed while ignorant and immature. In both cases, the goal of an enlightened system should be to return the person to society as quickly as possible and give them the tools they need to function as a valuable and productive member of society. Locking someone up for life benefits no one except the prison industry.