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Curious to know, I'd heard "lemming" used in a semi derogatory way, since "a person who unthinkingly joins a mass movement, especially a headlong rush to destruction" is the dictionary definition. It seems to be the first thing to come to mind as to what you'd call a Lemmy user.

This platform certainly is embodying a mass movement to get off of reddit, and I'm definitely all for it! But I can't help but feel this could be one of those baby names that sounded cute and catchy but could be bullied later into life. What are your thoughts?

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I appreciate it as a self-aware jab at the nature of online communities in general, and it amuses me. Every human is a lemming in some way, shape or form, there's just nothing new under the sun so-to-speak. But by being aware of this tendency we can control our own behavior more consciously and effectively.

Gotta be able to laugh at yourself though, which is a capability that not everybody possesses.

[–] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like self sorting systems. Let the easily offended become offended and go somewhere else. They do have the right to be offended, after all.

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[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

It does kind of lack the same embarrassment that comes from self identifying as a Redditor

[–] Hank@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just thinking about how at some point in the future the lemmyverse will be replaced over some dumb shit and the tremendous amount of absolutely trash memes about lemmings jumping off a cliff that follow fills me with joy.

The internet is a cycle and it's fun to witness a new cycle now.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When I used reddit, I hardly ever felt the need to call anyone redditers? Do people that use Twitter call themselves twats? Cause they should. Damn the Faceboomers too.

[–] DopamineDaydreams@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Ah, I see. You never truly savored the Redditor experience - the Fedora, the bliss of basement living, the Cheetos-inspired physique. Without such rites of passage, how can you claim the title?

As for Twitter users being "Twats" or Facebook users "Faceboomers", that's an interesting proposition. But remember, le Redditors bear our stereotype with pride. The basement always has room for one more. ;)

/s <- do we still do this?

[–] doctorplasmatron@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

instead of fediverse perhaps it should be fedoraverse

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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Those darm lemon stealing....

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That definition comes from a false myth; a documentary made a bunch of lemmings fall to their deaths and purposefully misrepresented it iirc, fucked up.

It's time we reclaim our name and honour!

Loaf-shaped black-orange lemming sitting on shallow water surface

[–] Domille@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

plus they are cute af

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like there is some analogy to be made over how other social media platform leadership are all too willing to ruin our communities and run us out of them for their short-sighted goals.

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Totally. They are Disney creating a scenario where the logical response ought to be to stop at the cliff (aka play by their rules). Lemmings "choose" to confront the unknown future and go over the cliff, as that's better than obedience to the overbearing corporate entity.

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[–] clay830ee@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lemming Wikipedia entry states lemmings seek out new habitats whenever population density gets too large. Kinda fitting to the reddit migration. Also loosely related to federations in terms of multiple habitats.

I like it because it's like communal but with a limit, so not herd mentally.

[–] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

🤷‍♂️

[–] Kerandir@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] QuarterlySushi@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

This is what I think of every single time I hear the word lemmings - a little line of those 8 pixel dudes trotting along.

[–] Ni@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Same, this is what I think of as well. So a cute and nostalgic connotations for me (even if they didn't have a great sense of self preservation).

That's one of the things that this platform's name is appearently based on. Just FYI; so you and the main developer have something in common :)

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

As far as I know it was a disney "documentary " that perpetuated the falsehood of lemmings committing mass suicide so it seems only fitting that we rehabilitate the name that was so besmirched by that filthy corporate behemoth.

[–] GutterPunch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

lemurs > lemmings

[–] topperharlie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

IDK, I'll probably wait until the majority makes a decision and go with it..... oh, wait

[–] nieceandtows@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Personally, I think it’s on how you own it. You see a lot of people on right wearing deplorables as a sort of badge of honor. Same concept. People who would make fun of us for calling ourselves lemmings would make fun of us even if we called ourselves lions.

[–] JakenVeina@vlemmy.net 13 points 1 year ago

It's the only sensible option.

[–] papajohn@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

I’ll just follow the rest of you and not think about it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I know that the origin of the stereotypes is false, the stereotype still remains. So I'm not fond of the term for that, but it's not a super big deal. I might joke about it because it's pretty fucking funny (c'mon... Redditors coming to Lemmy on a leap of faith? Like lemmings off a cliff is analogous as hell), but I mean... People who would use it to talk shit, would end up turning anything used to describe a group as a slur so there's not really a point in caring too much.

[–] delirium@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I'm new but I've always mentally gone straight to lemming from lemmy. also, I love all iterations of the game.

[–] TerribleJokes@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

That’s definitely the first nickname that I thought of when I started using lemmy so I’m all in for it my fellow lemming

[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is also something called irony, which could be embraced and that would quell the bullying. Own it. It's funny, stop taking things so seriously. Also, who cares?

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[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I dig it!

We can all start building ladders, digging holes, blocking others to reverse directions or simply self destruct!

[–] WrenofDelpan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I don't think it matters, if people have a problem with it they need to learn how to laugh at themselves. Redditors certainly behave like lemmings sometimes, and some self-deprecating humor over here calling ourselves lemmings is pretty funny

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is only one component of the Fediverse. We are Citizens of the Federated Universe!

[–] doctorplasmatron@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Call me whatever you want, when I hear "Lemmy" I think Motorhead, so maybe we're "Kilmisters"

[–] Selgauth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Also people will think we’re stupid if we let a group of scientists throw us off a cliff. Which is fair.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I saw someone say we should go by lemmons

[–] smoll_pp_operator@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

Lemmings are cute and I don't mind at all.

[–] Mangoguana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it tbh XD anything is better than "redditor", I can't get the image of the fat vaping neckbeard with a fedora out of my head

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[–] kelvie@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why tie your identity to it at all? There doesn't need to be a collective name for lemmy users.

Is an email user an emailer? Is a reader of RSS feeds a RSS'er? Are discord users discorders? Or signal users signallers?

(Note: Not actually sure if discord users call themselves something)

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[–] AlexRogansBeta@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we actually wanna support the essence of what we're engaging on, we shouldn't factionalize by user interface and should avoid names attached to Lemmy, Mastadon, or KBin. We should instead be Federates of the Fediverse.

[–] Void_Reader@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then it'll be shortened to Feds and that seems wrong

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[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's better than anal explorers ala Lemmiwinks.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huffman told me to fall in line, so I became a lemming.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Lemmings? Yup, I'm in.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think many here like it. It's fun and us crashing a few Lemmy instances the past few days does resemble lemmings jumping off a cliff (even if that one is a myth) 😁

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[–] Blakerboy777@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

@Redecco

I've been thinking about this for a little while now and I think Fedditor is the best choice.

  1. Between Lemmy and Kbin, there's already two choices of software platforms for Reddit-esque link aggregators that work together. In the future there may be more. I think the term should be inclusive.

  2. Fedditor is play on redditor, a widely used term for users of the privately owned Reddit. A fedditor is a user of a Fediverse alternative.

  3. Since ActivityPub is an underlying protocol that interfaces with the rest of the Fediverse, I think emphasizing the Fediverse aspect and the "reddit-esque" aspect is more important than the specific software platform.

People may use different terms for Lemmy vs Kbin vs future alternatives (or ones I just don't know about), but they may also use different terms for the instance they use or for the magazine/group that they are a part of. I think if any term becomes widespread, it should be an inclusive term that fall underneath a more general term such as Fedditor.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The thought of being called a lemming makes me want to run off a cliff.

[–] Vupperware@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
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