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It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

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[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[A screenshot of a section of an article by the news outlet "Engadget". Text reads as follows.]

More platform instability could be in Twitter's near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company's Google Cloud servers. [Hyperlink begins] Platformer reports [Hyperlink ends] Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract's [Highlighted in yellow] June 30th renewal date. [Highlighting ends] Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google's infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is "running behind schedule," putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company [Hyperlink begins] acquired in 2018 [Hyperlink ends] to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

[–] Teriser@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're doing important work! Just wanted to drop a small correction, the news outlet is actually called "engadget" Cheers!

[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Autocorrect I swear to God...

Sorry about that! I was doing some quickly this morning while on hold calling the doctor's office so I guess I didn't proofread it great. Thank you!

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine if this guy had the controls to the oxygen on Mars

[–] MonsieurArchi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

he would definitely sell access to it per second.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The more I've been watching this whole thing play out, the more I'm inclined to believe that something like this is possible.

Unfortunately for these dipshits masquerading as geniuses, the genie is out of the bottle, and there's no way he's getting corked back in. The internet is really all we need, and in the event of the mass coordination required to organize a protest or anything of the sort, the first best option will win. Whether that's Signal, or Lemmy, or Facebook, or whatever. Necessity is the mother of invention and the amount of resources that a pissed off population has will always win out in the long-term. Hell, we'll pull a fucking sneaker net if we really have to.

Reddit has already been compromised for a few years now anyways. I noticed when they started banning people for not subscribing to group think or the more recent examples of permabanning users for anti-Russian rhetoric. There are only a few vestiges of Aaron's original dream of Reddit, found in places like Antiwork or WSB, but they're a drop in a bucket full of site-wide dogshit.

[–] Myro@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a bit too much conspiracy for my taste, but for sure, billionaires don't do anything for our good.

[–] rbhfd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Billionairs look out for themselves first and foremost. They try to maximise their profit.

Musk wants to push more people to pay for verified. The reddit board (not only Spez) wants people to download their app to make it seem like their growing right before their IPO, while simultaneously forcing more ad views. Probably downloading the app also lets them track a lot of extra data about you as well.

No conspiracy needed to explain all this.

[–] Danatronic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (22 children)

It's so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.

[–] OctopusKurwa@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spez did say Musk's Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol

[–] Marxine@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They seem really aligned in their goals then!

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[–] senkora@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.

[–] Empyreus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.

Companies would rather cut their noses of in the end of a quarter, to claim a weight loss, than do something that would spell positive results for its lifetime...

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

50 Cent's success as a business man suddenly starts making a lot more sense, eh?

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[–] reverendz@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.

In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.

These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.

The revolution will not be televised.. by the people.

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[–] Khrounose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see that a lot of people complain about reddit, twitter, and whatever mainstream website completely fuck the consumer, but fail to realize one crucial thing. The only time change happens in mob settings is when the pain of no change is greater than the pain of change. I applaud Elon, spez, and who ever else wishes to put there services behind their paywall whether it's an API or just simply viewing tweets. Anyone in the know knows that it's a crock of shit and anyone who isn't is annoyed to the point where change is preferable. The sooner people figure out posting information, entertainment, and other forms of media/knowledge to the benefit of a company is horrendous the better. Now we have the opportunity to get rid of the corporate greed and basically open-source peoples knowledge from around the globe. Although like with reddit, mob mentality poses a real threat to communities like this one, I trust that you all are normal and level headed individuals who can come to disagreements but still respect eachother (as corny as that sounds). I much prefer it over giving more information to companies who use it to profit off of my content, while I receive nothing.

*Edit: Thank you kind stranger for the reddit gold! Glad you spent real hard cash so I can have reddit premium and reddit coins! The lovely people at reddit will be spending your money sitting on a yacht eating grapes in one hand and lobster in the other. I'm sure they are real thankful too! :) *

[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.

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[–] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you know? Paying your bills is woke

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

"Bills" is now considered a slur on Twitter.

[–] markon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is hilarious. Elon musk has shown he's a moron. He's a serial lier. Elon Musk has once again proven himself to be a foolish and dishonest individual.

[–] makabayan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and yet there are people who vehemently defend him. they scare me tbh, makes one wonder if they are paid shills or just voluntary ass-kissers.

[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, something like 82% of people in Russia support Putin. A bunch of other countries, like China, which had 75% of people polled stating that the Russia/Ukraine conflict was good for China. Bush 2 had overwhelming support during the early-mid 2000s. Hitler still has fanatics and followers. There will always be a segment of the population willing to straight up murder others, in order to make their own lives more comfortable, no matter how misguided their ideology is.

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[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to work for a local company that sold parts to Tesla. They were a huge nightmare and wouldn’t pay us. I think that is their whole deal. Not paying the small companies.

FUCK them

[–] MerfMerf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately that sort of behaviour is common in many sectors where large companies subcontract with smaller companies.

The tactic basically created the whole factoring concept (buying invoices, or using invoices as security for a "loan"/credit).

Over here in Sweden it was construction companies that initially fuelled the development, and the large companies basically required very long payment terms (60+ days) from their subcontractors and then waited to the very last day to dispute the invoice by complaining on some part of the work, further delaying payment. A small subcontractor could often not front being out that much money (2+ months of salaries, materials and other operating costs, cost of fighting the dispute etc) and ended up going bust. Enter financial institutions buying (or "lending" with the invoice as security) the invoice, letting the subcontractor get paid immediately, but of course not the full amount since the factoring company wants to profit from the deal. The factoring companies being backed by large financial institutions (banks typically) have enough money that they can sit out those long payment terms and other "bullshit" since they know those large construction companies ARE good for the money they are owed EVENTUALLY.

Still carves into the margins for the small actors.

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[–] NotMartyMcFly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] m13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The Trump playbook.

[–] cristalcommons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

i think social media was good, but we gave the CEOs too much power over our content and accounts.

so... we went from "social media is where society creates media" to "social media is where tech CEO's control and keep society's media hostage".

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

That's what we had before. And it never stopped to exist, it just dwindled out for convenience.

  • no more personal website but just a "facebook page", for convenience
  • no integration between sites, just a few huge ones, for convenience
  • no customisation and personal expression but large, uniformised experience, for convenience
  • no small hosting and individual presence online, just a few massive (corporate) infrastructures graciously given to us, for convenience
  • no control over policies and content, just be happy with what our generous overlord allows us to do, for convenience

The "fediverse" is a step in the good direction, but as long as the general user don't care, these huge services will keep being the "main" internet for the forseeable future. Even abusing the userbase and getting batshit crazy with rules and restrictions isn't stopping them.

Meanwhile, some of us are happy on out littler corner of the internet, using RSS to see what's new on individual websites, and depending on services that are either sanely hosted or even self-hosted and interoperable. But that's not for everyone.

[–] cristalcommons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thank you for your reply. yes, i agree with your comment.

it's like internet freedom is a forever refugee in constant diaspora, as it is always forced to exile itself from the places conquered by economic and sociopolitic warmongers who only seek profit and population control.

all the time, over and over. one jump every few years.

but we will make it! ^^

[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What can i say ? I just don´t care anymore about twitter. Also any misfortune for space Karen is just a plus at this point

[–] OasissisaO@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I especially enjoy that, no matter how much he drives the value down, he's always going to owe the full value of the loans.

[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah and he used tesla actions as a collateral. So if he is not able to make money to pay for the loans, he will lose control of Tesla. I´m savoring every moment that things are blowing up in his face. After this venture fails, he will probably still be rich, but surely not a billionaire anymore and i will vicariously enjoy his fall from billionaire extraordinaire to just a legacy common stock millionaire.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's probably a combination of self-DDOSing and not paying providers. Which any intelligent experienced dev could've told him, but they all got fired months ago.

[–] Found@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Its almost like the developers were holding the site together.

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