this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2024
498 points (98.6% liked)

politics

19104 readers
2651 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The list of things that should put Trump in jail but he will never see consequences for.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Maybe, maybe not. This is pissing with the IRS. They really can get a pain in the ass, even for the rich.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago

You mean the IRS that Trump's party desperately wants to cut off as much funding as it can for? It is entirely possible that if NYS didn't step in and take the lead on pointing out his fraud, the IRS would have never found it, given the current funding battles in Congress.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 9 months ago

federal agency. better hope he doesnt win the ability to pardon himself

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

After all, tax evasion is how they got Capone back in the day. It would be poetic if Trump was nailed for the same thing.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't say poetic more than a demonstration of how this country has utterly failed to shore up the justice system so we can properly take care of rich connected criminals...

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I hope it isn't, that would grant him satisfaction for being compared to him. I hope he gets jailed for shitting in a pool or something equally as humilating

[–] Bocky@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’s starting to run low on money. Keep on going after him, he is hemorrhaging funds for legal defenses everywhere.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Are you sure he's actually paying them? Sure, he's racking up bills, but...

[–] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

That's the list I'm talking about, unfortunately.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's how they got Capone. Tried and true way for getting crooks that rely on henchmen and ambiguity.

Trump's modus operandi includes a lot of implication. He makes ambiguous comments; henchlings that interpret his ramblings the way he wants get promoted; those that don't, get fired. Prosecution is difficult when they can't get a good, direct quote proving intention and direction.

But crooks will be crooks, and there's always the IRS to save us from the worst of them.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" (also expressed as "troublesome priest" or "meddlesome priest") is a quote attributed to Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. While the quote was not expressed as an order, it prompted four knights to travel from Normandy to Canterbury, where they killed Becket. The phrase is commonly used in modern-day contexts to express that a ruler's wish may be interpreted as a command by his or her subordinates. It is also commonly understood as shorthand for any rhetorical device allowing leaders to covertly order or exhort violence among their followers, while still being able to claim plausible deniability for political, legal, or other reasons.

TIL

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"It appears that Trump knowingly and intentionally broke the law. The only question is how many laws."

What a dumb question, all of them of course, because he is the greatest law breaker of all time. ~/s~

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The /s wasn't needed, everyone knows only one person holds that record: Bender Bending Rodriguez. Trump hasn't even committed burglarsonarceny.

This said, Bender never raped anyone... So perhaps I'm mistaken.

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

What about that radiator woman from the radiator planet?

[–] foiledAgain@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

How did you forget Clamps!!?

[–] vzq@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s over half a slander damages award right there!

[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I like that!

$83.3M is one slander damage, just as one Scaramucci is eleven days.

I propose we also add "Donald hands" as a length unit of measure. Maybe it's just half of the existing hand unit of measure.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Tax evasion? Trump? Law and order leader? I can’t believe it.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"What could be" = What actually is

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everyone knows, but presumption of innocence is an important precept.

[–] Thirdborne@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For the courts presumption of innocence is important, but as people, we know this guy. Trump University, Trump Charitable Foundation, Trump Org. All have been found by the courts to operate fraudulently. We don't owe him any benefit of a doubt.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The press does. That’s why the title is the way it is.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Perhaps we can refer to him as a systemic fraudster rather than ex-president?

I appreciate you're trying to be the voice of reason here, though

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

It’s absolutely tax evasion he’s a Republican.

[–] theachievers@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Shocked. Yes, shocked I am that

[–] makunamatata@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Trump on sharing his financial success: "I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge."

TIME, 14/4/11

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Pretend you're Donald Trump who's defending himself from the allegation that he falsified disclosures over $48 million loan in what could be tax evasion. Write the defense in the style of Donald Trump and make it slightly over the top but not too much.

[–] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s your favorite President here, Donald J. Trump – and yes, I’m still your President, don’t believe any of those Fake News reports telling you otherwise. Now, I’ve heard this ridiculous, absolutely laughable accusation being thrown around by the radical left and their puppet media, trying to claim that I, Donald Trump, did something untoward with a $48 million loan. Can you believe it? $48 million! To them, it might seem like a lot, but to Trump? That’s just a Tuesday in the office.

First of all, let me make something crystal clear, clearer than the windows at Trump Tower: I am, perhaps, the best at understanding and navigating the complex world of finance. Some say I'm like a financial wizard - no, even better, a financial genius. So, the very idea that I would need to do anything, let alone evade taxes over what amounts to pocket change, is preposterous, ludicrous, and frankly, insulting.

Secondly, this so-called "allegation" smells like desperation from those who can't compete with the unparalleled success of the Trump empire. They see the name Trump on magnificent buildings, on successful businesses, and they know they can't match it. So what do they do? They attack, they slander, they throw out baseless accusations hoping something will stick.

Now, let's talk about these disclosures. The Trump Organization has always followed the letter of the law, and then some. We're transparent, like the finest, most luxurious glass you've ever seen – not that cheap stuff our competitors use. When it comes to our finances, we have the best people, the most brilliant accountants. You think they’d let anything slip by? Impossible!

As for tax evasion, listen, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I know taxes better than anyone, probably better than the IRS themselves. I’ve paid millions and millions in taxes over the years. Millions! More than anyone. And I’ve done it all while being under the most unfair, most politically motivated audit in history. But do I complain? No! I make America great, I make deals, and I create jobs.

In conclusion, this entire allegation is nothing more than a witch hunt, the greatest witch hunt in history, concocted by those who can’t stand to see America succeed under Trump. But guess what? They won’t win. We’ll keep winning, because that’s what we do. Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

This is way too coherent.