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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My guess is that by the way the unfunding quickly played out that the proof is substantial. It's going to be more than a dozen before they see countries tax dollars again.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone know what this proof is? Seems odd that you have to guess

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can go back through the years and see Israel complain that the UNRWA was fostering hate. Madaris in that part of the world have been known to do that. The proof that they're actively involved in terrorism is above our pay grade, but we do know various hostages were being held by teachers and doctors.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Madaris? Just call them schools like a normal person. Anyone seeking English in Gaza would call that a "school". Kinda weird, why would you choose a different word for this? Flaunting your Arabic, or what?

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The proof that they're actively involved in terrorism is above our pay grade

How convenient. So we're just supposed to take it on trust.

Of course I have seen the Israeli claims and read the UN Watch report where they quote some social media posts. Probably not enough to stop aid to a humanitarian organization but maybe it's because my "pay grade" is too low to find out the really juicy facts they have which definitely totally exist and aren't just made up ad hoc justifications for cruelty.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

During the 2023 Israel-Hamas war one of the hostages said after having been freed that he had been held in a house of a UNRWA teacher. UNRWA said that it is aware of the claims and is investigating it.[144] Additionally, teachers and other educational staff of UNRWA have been reported praising Hamas's terrorism on social media, referring to it as an "unforgettable glorious morning" and a "splendid sight."[145][146][147] The IDF uncovered assault rifles, ammunition, grenades and missiles with varying capacities of Hamas, hidden in and underneath UNRWA institutions.[148][149][150][151]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNRWA

This reminds me of the constant denials by haters of Israel regarding the rocket attack on the hospital.

Lots more evidence of the connection between UNRWA and Hamas in that Wikipedia article.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dude. If you think you should be able to walk into intelligence agencies and get their information on a particular topic, that's truly sad.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Source: bro trust me

Lol what a joke

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone really cares who you trust.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fact remains that the source for this claim is bro trust me. Nobody should care who I trust. But I'm sure most people can see that "bro trust me" is completely useless. I will believe it when I see evidence

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You are not asked to believe it.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should believe anything because of a "bro trust me" and if you do you have a serious problem. I know nobody cares if I believe it, I am not stupid

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Denual is a refuge for weak arguments. Obviously the the countries that control fund8ng are not in denial.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Bruh, "above our paygrade" is a prime example of denial, deflection, and appeal to authority.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Scepticism in the face of a lack of evidence, especially for a claim from one side involved in a war, is not only a good idea but necessary. Would you just believe a Russian claim about Ukranian schools, no questions asked?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can be a skeptic as much as you want. But, the funding countries aren't. The UN having already fired personnel aren't.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Than we won’t support our governments for blindly believing it.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Like that time there was a Hamas base underneath the hospitalsand the IDF definitely didn't lie about it?

If the IDF has such amazing proof why aren't they just showing it? Nobody trusts these people on their word.

[–] june@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What’s the ‘terminated’ language mean if not ‘dead’?

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good question. Fired maybe?

[–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

So 9 people got fired and one murdered. Sounds like there’s a bit of inequity with how they handle these issues

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

That is so clearly bullshit is almost comedy.