[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

We still have no answer from them on what happened to Hind. God I wonder why surely the unflinchingly moral and self-investigating IDF wouldn't lie about or cover up what happened.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

He's like "You, monkey! Where are the treats?"

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago

Israel is so bad that this isn't even shocking anymore

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Agree 100%. I don't think the people you were arguing with really want to engage on these points, their entire position only applies in the voting booth. They're right, in pure Biden vs Trump there is only one reasonable choice. I just wouldn't gamble so hard on the population being reasonable, otherwise Trump would have never won in 2016 either.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago

When the genocide started? Gosh yeah you're right what a mystery

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They are avoiding the question.

I think since the scales are tipped in republicans' favour (e.g. losing popular vote but winning presidency always goes one way - Trump, Bush), not voting likely benefits them over the dems. Depending on your state of course.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

No worries. Mistakes happen. I won't be a prick about it.

But not anti Biden. Anti genocide. I can see why you might get those two confused, lol

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you for putting this so well.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Never mind. I made a mistake trying to follow the thread.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Well if you're going around making up what people are saying then you're doing a pretty horrifically bad job of having a conversation.

Where did I defend third party votes? NOWHERE

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because this comment chain stems from my reply? Not complicated. But yes my apologies for getting the wrong idea.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

I cared the whole time.

Honestly as someone who isn't American, this is more important to me than economic policy or whatever. I want Biden to win, Trump winning would be awful for everyone, basically worldwide. But most of all I want the kids to stop dying. I really don't think this is so unreasonable.

Trump won't be convinced. Biden might be. And this "less important" issue could still cost him swing states. I think maybe not supporting a genocide could be a vote winner.

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You fasten all the triggers

For the others to fire

Then you sit back and watch

While the death count gets higher

You hide in your mansion

While the young people's blood

Flows out of their bodies

And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear

That can ever be hurled

Fear to bring children

Into the world

For threatenin my baby

Unborn and unnamed

You ain't worth the blood

That runs in your veins

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One bright day in April 1956, Moshe Dayan, the one-eyed chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), drove south to Nahal Oz, a recently established kibbutz near the border of the Gaza Strip. Dayan came to attend the funeral of 21-year-old Roi Rotberg, who had been murdered the previous morning by Palestinians while he was patrolling the fields on horseback. The killers dragged Rotberg’s body to the other side of the border, where it was found mutilated, its eyes poked out. The result was nationwide shock and agony.

If Dayan had been speaking in modern-day Israel, he would have used his eulogy largely to blast the horrible cruelty of Rotberg’s killers. But as framed in the 1950s, his speech was remarkably sympathetic toward the perpetrators. “Let us not cast blame on the murderers,’’ Dayan said. “For eight years, they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages where they and their fathers dwelt into our estate.” Dayan was alluding to the nakba, Arabic for “catastrophe,” when the majority of Palestinian Arabs were driven into exile by Israel’s victory in the 1948 war of independence. Many were forcibly relocated to Gaza, including residents of communities that eventually became Jewish towns and villages along the border.

Dayan was hardly a supporter of the Palestinian cause. In 1950, after the hostilities had ended, he organized the displacement of the remaining Palestinian community in the border town of Al-Majdal, now the Israeli city of Ashkelon. Still, Dayan realized what many Jewish Israelis refuse to accept: Palestinians would never forget the nakba or stop dreaming of returning to their homes. “Let us not be deterred from seeing the loathing that is inflaming and filling the lives of hundreds of thousands of Arabs living around us,’’ Dayan declared in his eulogy. “This is our life’s choice—to be prepared and armed, strong and determined, lest the sword be stricken from our fist and our lives cut down.’’

On October 7, 2023, Dayan’s age-old warning materialized in the bloodiest way possible.

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October 7 was the worst calamity in Israel’s history. It is a national and personal turning point for anyone living in the country or associated with it. Having failed to stop the Hamas attack, the IDF has responded with overwhelming force, killing thousands of Palestinians and razing entire Gazan neighborhoods. But even as pilots drop bombs and commandos flush out Hamas’s tunnels, the Israeli government has not reckoned with the enmity that produced the attack—or what policies might prevent another. Its silence comes at the behest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has refused to lay out a postwar vision or order. Netanyahu has promised to “destroy Hamas,” but beyond military force, he has no strategy for eliminating the group and no clear plan for what would replace it as the de facto government of postwar Gaza.

His failure to strategize is no accident. Nor is it an act of political expediency designed to keep his right-wing coalition together. To live in peace, Israel will have to finally come to terms with the Palestinians, and that is something Netanyahu has opposed throughout his career. He has devoted his tenure as prime minister, the longest in Israeli history, to undermining and sidelining the Palestinian national movement. He has promised his people that they can prosper without peace. He has sold the country on the idea that it can continue to occupy Palestinian lands forever at little domestic or international cost. And even now, in the wake of October 7, he has not changed this message. The only thing Netanyahu has said Israel will do after the war is maintain a “security perimeter” around Gaza—a thinly veiled euphemism for long-term occupation, including a cordon along the border that will eat up a big chunk of scarce Palestinian land.

But Israel can no longer be so blinkered.

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Step one: acquire container.

Step two: ???

Step three: profit

We've been giving them water in this tupperware all summer but now my bro apparently has his own plans

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