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You all might not be aware, but I think Rudd started this server only at the beginning of June for funsies, probably only expecting a couple of hundred users.
Then, of course, came Reddit API-calypse. Now, here we are barely 4 weeks later, almost 80k users on the instance. From nothing, to a respectable chuck of the fediverse, just that fast. Pretty amazing.
True, I opened my account June 1st on Beehaw, lemmy.world didn't exist yet. But I had to open an account on LW when BH defederated them...
I'm happy to see .world growing for this reason. There has to be a neutral ground for everyone. The gatekeeping of communities like Beehaw are fine for them, but in order for the lemmy to grow, it has to be shapeable by the community. Moderation screening, content rigidity, and walled gardens are antithetical to the type of social network that people are looking for as a replacement to Reddit. The community has to be allowed to make the place its own.
Edit: For the record, I'm perfectly aware they plan to refederate once they get their "moderation" tools. I just question what tools they deem sufficient to permit refederation. Moderation tools on Lemmy will be extremely powerful thanks to votes being public, and I don't trust admins of some of these instances to be responsible or fair with them, or to only use them on the most toxic elements. Petty, groundless shadowbanning and admin "curation" is going to plague Lemmy going forward, mark my words. That's why we need some neutral ground.
I made an account on sh.itjust.works because world was having some issues registering new users. Because of this small issue I ended up taking a deep dive into learning about the Fediverse. It's such a cool concept and really easy to use once you familiarize yourself with it.
It's also awesome that instances can federate with one another, so communities can continue to grow! I was apprehensive of making the switch initially due to the presumption that it would require a steep learning curve, but I learned how to access, browse, and interact on lemmy in 15 minutes or less lol.
I keep mentioning it, but the fediverse reminds me of my early days of browsing reddit back in the mid-late 2000s. Lemmy feels like home and I can't wait to see it grow :)
Make sure you throw him a dollar or two on patreon if you can. We don't want this all to come crashing down around us or be loaded down by ads.
Keep in mind, dear folks, simply coming ain't enough. Be sure to stay and visit often, otherwise the rich assholes win ;)
This is not a good thing. Part of the problem is third-party apps like Sync and other Fediverse advocates that direct Reddit users to sign up on only one instance, lemmy.world. This is understandable to keep things simple for the Redditors but it hurts lemmy.world (cost and performance-wise) and the Fediverse as a whole (centralization) to have a lot of accounts on one instance. I hope lemmy.world can make an announcement or guide to encourage users to spread out to more instances.
I think another reason too is that .world is run by Ruud who is a trusted actor in the space (he already runs Mastodon.world, a large mastodon instance), and so many (including me) probably felt it would be a safe harbor and not likely to get shut down or run poorly.
Maybe ony Lemmy.world's registration page thay can list other instances that they trust and endorse.
For anyone that's using Lemmy.world and wants to lessen their burden on the admins, look for a Lemmy instance closer to you (in the physical world) using this site:
https://fediverse.observer/map
Sign up on that instance, sign in on your Lemmy app, sort based on All, and you should be able to see the same content as if you were on Lemmy.world!
I tried lemmy.world, it seemed to slow. So I signed up to lemmy.nz... much quicker and more relevant to me.
I have tried many forum-styled site over the years including the politically more questionable ones, and from what I see theres 3 hurdles a site need to pass in order to be good:
it needs good infrastructure, especially user interface (where 4ch, most forum, and now reddit fail)
it has some gatekeeping to filter out the "order consumers", but not too much that it drives user away, including having a toxic environment (where 4ch and .win fail)
it needs to have enough user generated content so thay theres actually reasons to use the site (whre most reddit clones fail)
from what I see lemmy has passed all the hurdles, and I have good hope the fediverse will stick around
What is an order consumer
In a community, whether if itβs online or your local club or just society in general, it requires admin/moderator/judges/law enforcement etc. to put in hard work to create rules and order so everything function smoothly. In a sense, the βorderβ they create here can be treated as a commodity.
A user can do things that helps out the moderators and create order (e.g. taxes, volunteering), or break rules and cause chaos, which βconsumesβ order (e.g. criminal activity, riots, trolling etc.) . Order consumers refers to people who consumes more order than they create.
E: typo
I just really hope the engagement continues and grows.
I'm pretty sure I've commented more within the last 2 days than my 8 years on Reddit lol. Engagement is definitely higher
Yeah same. When the network errors level out it will be better as well. For example anytime I comment I see an error but it actually posts.
Lemmy perfectly represents the adage "building the plane as you fly it" and it's been so much fun seeing it take shape.
I suppose this is a good place for my first post. I'm happy to be here. This has saved me from the withdrawals of losing reddit. I hope we can make this an active community.
Really interested to hear about the plans and costs to scale up and grow in a stable, reliable, and safe way. Hopefully Patreon membership grows too and allows continued performance improvements.
I think for more casual users, continued degraded performance - or worse, an instance being stopped for whatever reason and the content and accounts being lost - would probably stop the platform being a true replacement. Casual users would head back to Reddit.
I think having a public roadmap and backlog, good communication and transparency will be super important, particularly in these early stages.
Great job so far, this kind of sudden growth is not easy to manage!
As a refugee myself, itβs amazing to see the growth. In just the four days Iβve been here, thereβs been sensuous growth seen.
Love the decentralized model. Iβm so over corporate run sites looking to make a profit
Honestly, I also try to be more active as a user in Lemmy, and it feels way more rewarding because it feels like a more tight-knitly community here. Like it a lot!
It checks all the boxes for me. No bots, no spam, mostly coherent adults, feels just like using reddit.
I hate to sound all hipster, but a super big community does typically end up ruining themselves. It's nothing against the fandom itself or even the majority of people in it, it's just that eventually more toxic people will be included as popularity increases.
That was my biggest gripe nearing the end of reddit and how all subs past 250k subs felt like they either became /r/pics, /r/videos, or /r/funny
Not too long ago I was worried that this place may get deserted after a first boost, but it is awesome to see that more and more people are coming. So glad this is happening and it already feels like a really good alternative to Reddit!
For reference point:
On July first 1 am, we had 62k people.
As of right now, we're at 75k
80k
I'm very excited to see how this all develops. Right now it's pretty rough and the constant failure to load/comments getting duplicated or disappearing hurts a lot but it does have potential. Let the Lemmy's free!
I joined this morning and this is my first comment this afternoon. Fuck spez, this place seems much nicer.
This is pretty awesome. I've tried mastodon when Twitter shit the bed a few months back and it never really launched the way I'd hoped.
Lemmy seems pretty lively. At first I was a bit disillusioned with the fact that it's not as active as reddit, but I feel the caliber of user that's come over is better than who we've all been dealing with the past 3-5 years over there. I'm happy to be here and there's palpable excitement
I mean, if Reddit blocks 3rd party apps, I ainβt staying. Iβll just come here which appears to basically be a better version of Reddit.
It's nice seeing how much Lemmy is growing. I knew there would be an influx of new users from the 30th, but it's honestly nice seeing more comments overall and posts getting upvoted.
Yeah, I was expecting a small bump of new people when the 3PAs shut down, but the absolute deluge we've been getting is a pleasant surprise. RIF sending its users here has a lot to do with it, I think.
We all be going to Reddit and letting people know about the migration to Lemmy.... And make sure to promote one of the 3rd party apps to the redditors. The best one I've tried so far is Connect for Lemmy on the Google play store.
I did my part. By which I mean I made an account and made a single comment (well, two now.)
Still hoping to find a good comparable app to Slide for Reddit. Liftoff for Lemmy has fairly similar comment layout at least.
Sync for Lemmy is coming. It was my favourite Reddit app. Should be good here too.
My prediction is the .world will become a default sort of federation for popular communities until the Apps join in and we then start forming smaller communities under .Apollo and .Sync.
I want to see the App developers being the leaders on here
My addiction have new management. A lot more community driven than the last one π
Also please consider using other instances for your account. Lemmy.world is struggling and the costs will keep rising for Ruud.
Glad to see Refugees like myself finding a new home. I'd be interested in sporting some merchandise it some of the proceeds go back into covering costs etc..
I guess that's because "World" is a pretty bold statement and suggests an expanse that can accommodate a truckload of migrants. Add to that the open signups and my natural aversion to smaller instances (I tend to think someone with a few users may feel tempted to pull the plug at any moment), and here we are. By the way, I have had a great experience with Connect for Lemmy - if anyone is interested.