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[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Republicans want open borders so they can campaign on razor wire and racism. If the problem ever were to be "fixed", they'd have nothing left to bitch about. They don't actually want the immigration crisis solved, just like they didn't actually want Roe overturned. They just wanted to be able to scream about it like children so they could piss off low information voters.

Trump is just helping pull back the veil on the charade.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a perfect example of the dog catching the car. They likely never expected to be successful with roe and had no idea what to do when they won. This is also likely to be their downfall. I'm not sure they thought through just how many younger voters would be riled up and extremely pissed off about it.

[–] Grobmobularb@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They want immigrants to build our houses but they want to tell white people the immigrants are the problem, for votes and power.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And also do jobs like working chicken farms and dangerous jobs that you would have to pay US citizens more money to do (and also pay the taxes on them). The idea of immigrants being "illegal" came about as a way to replace slave labor. People who know they will be deported don't make complaints to OSHA, so you can treat them poorly, and just replace them like you would any other expendable item should your place of employment lead to them becoming ill, dismembered, or even deceased.

EDIT - This article explains this better than me.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The old guard doesn't want those things, but the problem is that if you rant about problems you don't want to solve because they're politically useful, eventually people will start to believe you. The McConnells want to use the threat of immigrants to get elected and pass Conservative bills; the Marj Greenes want to "solve" it, preferably finally.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

The right wing sure is fond of their final solutions.

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That's what we said about Roe as well. They will always find some new way to manufacture outrage even after they get their way.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A quandary? Because of citizen Donald Trump? He's not the president, anymore.

If you're in a "quandary," it's because you are choosing to be afraid of the monster you made. Fucking idiot cowards.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago

If the Republicans fix problems with immigration, they would lose their political platform.

Trump is running for dictator and to stay out of jail. He doesn't care about helping immigrants.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ROMNEY: “ It was hard for me to see what Leader McConnell was suggesting. He seem to be of two minds in the conversation. But reading the reports this morning, and the fact that he hasn't corrected them suggests that he is inclined to listen to what former President Trump wants.”

[–] ClopClopMcFuckwad@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

He seems to be of two minds

Yeah, strokes and dementia will do that.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You know what? Fuck it. Let's just fucking do it. Kick out all the immigrants, non-whites, and non-christians, and then stop trading with any non-white or "woke" countries. Sure, I'll be kicked out of country, but I'll binge-watch the the shit out of the reality tv series about the country that kicked itself back into colonial times just to try growing tobacco and cotton in asphalt.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kicking out all the immigrants doesn't leave us with white folks.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hence the other filters of non-white and non-Christian. I'm a third generation Polish-American and I'm Jewish, so I'm double-gone. My Indian-American Hindu wife gets kicked out for aaaallllllllllll the reasons. But she loves trash tv and would force me to watch the remaining Americans constantly fail while I cook up some chilaquiles for us.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just meant that there's a group of people who would consider anyone whose family wasn't already here before 1492 to be unwelcome immigrants.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Yes! Sorry, I'm slow today.

I frequently like to visit national parks and imagine what it would be like to visit the United States had people who look like me not destroyed it. I'm so curious what a society and government would have looked like 300 years later or even how many countries would be here.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

If they ever want to touch immigrants then the whites gotta go too.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah let's not

His exact words were:

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Mr Turtle says they can't decide where to go.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Donald Trump’s push to kill a bipartisan immigration deal may now derail a major national security package, forcing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to suggest a new course of action and endangering aid to Ukraine and Israel in the process.

According to a GOP source familiar with the matter, McConnell told Republicans at a private Wednesday meeting that they are in a “quandary,” given that bipartisan talks over immigration have created intraparty feuding and may have closed off a path to getting a massive package approved this Congress.

The fresh doubts from the Senate GOP leader – one of the leading proponents of more aid to Ukraine – suggest Congress may have to punt on the issues altogether or break up the package into individual pieces, though no decisions have been made.

The new doubts come as House Republicans – with the encouragement of Trump, who is railing on immigration as a top election issue – are revolting over the bipartisan talks, even before they’ve concluded.

The candid assessment, reported earlier by Punchbowl News, underscores the growing fears that Congress won’t be able to approve aid to Ukraine at a critical moment in its war against Russia – or pass any legislation to clamp down on the surge of migrants at the southern border.

Cramer told reporters that Risch, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, actually played a clip of the late Sen. John McCain talking about Russian President Vladimir Putin after the invasion of Crimea.


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