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[–] ErKaf@feddit.de 89 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yea, but all of this is true.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hey why does everyone have the noodles on their head?????????????????????????????????????????//

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

Cleary it's either a trend or just a fad.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Normalize people having their own opinions about things

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I prefer it when they make a snarky comment in response to an opinion https://youtu.be/EnBdGTX3vZc?si=o-aW646Nke-krhJT

[–] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As somebody who frequently dislikes extremely popular movies, everybody else has trash taste.

Inception was just ok and Interstellar got me to stop watching Nolan movies all together.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I remember being fairly drunk and going to see Interstellar at an indy arthouse movie theater that sold you overpriced craft beers. I remember relatively little of the finer points of Interstellar other than the fact that I couldn't stop laughing at how monumentally dumb it was. I have no idea why they even had it so that McConaughey's character had a son that he just basically didn't give a shit about because he wasn't as smart as his dad and sister. He's like "Oh, I miss my daughter Murph so much. Also the other one is probably still alive assuming he never drank any pesticide. What's his name again? Stumpy? Whatever." Also I loved how Matt Damon played a soulless robot better than Bill Irwin, who voiced the actual soulless machines in the movie. God, what a fucking terrible movie.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Same on Interstellar. For a movie that spawned a paper on mathematical realities of black holes and how to render them, and the rather realistic aesthetic, so so many things are brain-dead cliche or just technical enough to be extra wrong. Star Trek is better science, and they do dumb shit all the time.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Difference between critic and audience tells me if it's an artsy movie that I won't understand.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly Rotten Tomatoes is basically useless when discussing film. I’ve been using Letterboxd for reviews and I get much more insight on if I’ll like the movie.

Because consider that people who post on RT are either snobs, frequent movie goers, or are emotional about the movie in some way. And a critics aggregate is an awful way to do anything which is why metacritic is useless most of the time.

What people should do is take some of their favorite movies or games or whatever and look up reviews. Find ones that you agree with. And then use those sites or people as sounding boards for new movies. If that doesn’t work, move on to the next critic till you find one whose perspective aligns with yours.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Letterbox is where you go to find some truly wild takes. It's filled with people who have no genuine sense of media literacy, combined with a profoundly unjustified sense of confidence in the universality of their own opinions.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I’ve never had those experiences so that’s odd to me. But even if you aren’t there for the social aspect, it’s still a nice app for organizing and discovering movies. Also nice for navigating movie info like runtime, cast, crew, genre, and themes. Plus you can do what I suggested and find a critic and follow them there where they don’t have to write an article to suggest something to their followers.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The other way around means that's is a braindead action movie

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Like he said...

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 10 points 9 months ago

I KNEW IT!!!

[–] THE_ANON@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Can confirm . Snorted some yesterday

[–] Dazza@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

This is called confirmation bias

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could experiences differ per individual and no thing is made that will apeal to everyone? Nah, everyone is just stupid and I know what taste is.

[–] Mischala@lemmy.nz 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every experience is subjective?
No, it is the rest of the world that is wrong.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Some people definitely need to relax a little about the whole afair. BUT calling something "good" is entirely pointless unless you know the other person knows exactly what your tastes are. It's generally better to qualitfy it with a meaningful description: "artsy" or "dumb fun" or "so bad it's good"

"Good" isn't good enough

[–] Blackmist@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your own opinion is the only one that matters.

Unless you like Expendables 4. If you liked that you deserve prison.

[–] meyotch 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thats three too many Expendables!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 9 months ago

But the more they make the more Expendable they are!

[–] knF@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Expendables 4 is out? You made my day, really need to watch it! I enjoyed all of the three in the series, light humor, action, all my old heroes.... couldn't ask for more.

Give me some time to watch it before calling the cops to pick me up :D

[–] Blackmist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You are gonna be disappointed. I stole it and still wanted a refund.

I'm not out of space yet, but I still deleted it from my Jellyfin server out of principle.

I think it's the writing above all else that's a complete embarrassment.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've only seen rotten tomatoes enough to have looked harder at this macro to see it is in fact that. I judge my movies by how many people are seeding them. I have the digital space and real life time to watch whatever. I've seen the worst shit and the most incredible masterpieces. People should be more thankful for everything, good and bad. You won't have it forever.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

popularity ≠ how good it is

[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

honestly, i stopped caring for aggregate scores & started reading individual user reviews, particularly the ones in the 6-9/10 range seem to be the most honest. then I'll watch the movie anyway & form my own opinion. every piece of media is essentially someone's masterpiece, including video games too, even the bad ones are worth playing just to see someone else's perspective.

if we're talking the worst of the worst, like the last airbender m*vie, i personally dont regret watching it cuz it really put the good movies into perspective.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

if we’re talking the worst of the worst, like the last airbender m*vie, i personally dont regret watching it cuz it really put the good movies into perspective.

This is one reason I love MST3K. It's like a film school where you learn all the wrong things to do, so when you see them done right you appreciate it more.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Same, it's why I prefer the "did you like it? Yes, no. Why?" Review system.

I think asking people to score 1-10 is too easy to mess up.

It also leaves room for important "movie is awful but I love it anyway" reviews.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

This is my perspective on a lot of art and music. If something is universally hated, I want to know why it is and if I can find any redeeming qualities. A lot of my favorite things have that characteristic of doing something very specific extremely well but being generally unlikeable.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

For most things (not just movies) my tactic is to look at some average reviews, the most negative reviews and the most positive reviews, while checking if the reasons they love/hate it are things I care about.

Looking for reviews after you watched a movie seems kind of pointless to me.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will 99% of the time ignore the critic review because they miss and have missed hard sometimes.

Low critic high audience. Some good entertainment value but probably isn't much depth which is fine. Sometimes you just want a popcorn flix.

High critic high audience. Will watch and decide for myself.

Anything else, total crapshoot.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This would likely miss you out on any movie where the actors promoting it tangentially said a word that someone believes is “woke”.

The TURBO STUPID crowd tends to brigade the user reviews on any movie of that kind.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Can you think of a good example? Maybe a couple Netflix movies like "Don't look up"? I have cetain genres that are automatic watch for me. Suspense thriller usually falls in that category.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I have yet to watch an audience 80%+ movie that I didn't like.

I've seen plenty 80%+ critic movies that ended up being mastrubatory garbage.

So now, audience score is all that matters to me. 50%+ gets a chance in my book.

[–] Graz@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I only ever use those sites if i really disliked a movie but can't figure out why.

As a way to select a movie they're really pointless, I think a system that matches tastes of people and recommends movies based on that would be more promising.

[–] geoma@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wish there was something like taste.io but open

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was surprised the Little Mermaid live action remake was so well received. Those live action remakes only even exist as a way to milk the older cows without paying royalties due to obscure Hollywood laws. I like Halle Barry's acting too, but a 94% audience rating? The fuck?!

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

This is me irl

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Film critics are the people that went to film school but couldn't get a job making movies. They tend to judge a movie on it's technical merits.

Audiences mostly just want a good story. If the cinematography isn't great, if the shot composition is boring, the editing is janky, the audience may not care as much about those things, but a film critic will obsess over those kinds of problems.

A film critic can be so wowed by technical proficiency they don't notice it's in service of a poorly written story.

Also a film critic watches movies as their job. They're more likely to notice when a movie isn't all that original. They tend to want something that's unique to make their job of watching movies to be less boring. Someone in the audience doesn't care about that so much, mostly it's just important that the movie is entertaining. If the movie is sort of like a movie they didn't see, why would they care?

So I think a high critic score low audience score means the movie looks really good, but probably has a poorly written story. The critics went to film school, not writing school. For the converse, it's probably going to be fun and entertaining but isn't going to change my life.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Critics didn’t necessarily go to film school, but they see everything under the sun, so when a movie doesn’t do anything particularly new or is highly derivative without adding its own twist, it bores them. The person who goes to 3-5 movies a year doesn’t care, to them something derivative of 10 movies they haven’t seen is still new and fresh. This is in addition to the technical competency component you mentioned.

I watch a ton of movies so my tastes are more likely to align with those of a professional critic.

[–] burningmatches@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

That’s like 1% of critics on Rotten Tomatoes. The rest are random bloggers and the food/entertainment critic of the Springfield Courier.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 6 points 9 months ago

Still hoping for a decentralized FOSS alternative to Letterboxd/IMDB/TMDB/etc. Like what BookWyrms is compared to Goodreads. I really like logging what I consume (read, watch, listen) but I don't like relying on and donating my data and reviews to for-profit companies.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Our cognitive biases are fascinating, aren't they

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've literally only gone there when there's been drama like with Captain marvel

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