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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hope this is the beginning of Israel's transformation into an isolated and boycotted rogue state.

[–] sab@kbin.social 96 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or, even better, the beginning of Isreal's transformation into a country where people see through the bullshit of the far-right and elect decent leaders, leaving Netanyahu to rot in prison.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Going by the general trend around the world lately, that's a very unlikely outcome.

[–] sab@kbin.social 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of Israelis are blaming Netanyahu for the war, the Supreme Court of Israel struck down his constitutional reform, and thanks to him Israel can no longer take the support of their oldest allies completely for granted. The relationship between the US and Israel was already at an all-time low before all this thanks to Netanyahu being a piece of shit.

Of course, there's also the flip side of the coin: Netanyahu has always had a fear based platform, and the political climate lends itself well to that at the moment. There's always a rally behind the flag effect, and elections are still far away. So even if he loses the next election in a landslide that might be too late. Frankly it has been too late for many years already.

So all in all I agree in not being incredibly optimistic.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a nice thought, but until US policy changes, Israel is bulletproof.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're right. Given demographic changes in the US, I do think it's only a matter of time before most Americans consider Israel to be an albatross around their necks.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (22 children)

I've disliked Israel govt for decades. Fuck Bibi and the IDF.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Oh fuck off, Israel and their global backers are continuing their century-long campaign to take Palestine and remove/kill Palestinians. Hamas is just a recent development which happens to neatly justify this period of Israeli colonial violence.

After Hamas runs its course (however that ends up happening), then do you think Israel will back off? Of course not and the idea is preposterous.

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[–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

This is a great joke .... but the fact that people are actually debating this perception of Israel should make people stop and think.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The same world court created after the holocaust — an institution conceived of and supported by the Nuremberg prosecutor, also a Jew.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (10 children)

The USA could. By by ending the free weapons and money deliveries...

I mean, we probably won't, for reasons I don't understand.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago

Can't kick start the rapture without the jews in jerusalem

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Omgarm@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They'll look to daddy USA and nothing will happen.

[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (13 children)

The world court can do two things. First, arbitrate between two consenting states who agree to abide by the decision. Second, issue advisory rulings which have absolutely no functional authority. America doesn't have to step in. Nation states around the world wouldn't have signed onto a world court that could actually compel them to obey, we all like our sovereignty.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Which is ironic because as citizens of these countries we don't get that choice regarding the laws we're compelled to obey.

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[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think the US is about done with Netanyahu. The media is already starting to talk about the fractures between him and Biden.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What can the judge do? Invade them?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ultimately nothing concrete. Presently.

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I guess Israel doesn't let religion get in the way of its politics.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

I would like to see him proven wrong.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

... and when you've got the US in your back pocket they let you do it. You can do anything

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (17 children)

America will soon face a strong reckoning for how much they fucked around. Time to find out.

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