Only when needed. And I don't really use aliases at all for basic things like that. I don't like things like cp or mv being verbose most of the time as I don't have much use for their output and like it when commands are quite unless there is a problem as it makes it easier to see the error lines. I don't really want to be confirming every file in a recursive rm or cp or mv either - just leads to hitting y automatically and not thinking about it. I do like how zsh warns you about rm *
though with the directory you are about to remove though.
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That's fair.
I don’t really want to be confirming every file in a recursive rm or cp or mv either
Ah but rm
will only make you confirm if there are more than 3 files to be removed. And cp
and mv
only if there's risk of overwriting. And it's only one confirm per command, not per file.
You must have a different version of rm then I do:
$ rm -i a
rm: remove regular empty file 'a'? y
$ rm -ir f
rm: descend into directory 'f'? y
rm: remove regular empty file 'f/a'? y
rm: remove regular empty file 'f/b'? y
rm: remove regular empty file 'f/c'? y
rm: remove regular empty file 'f/d'? y
rm: remove regular empty file 'f/e'? y
rm: remove directory 'f'? y
Never really had an issue with cp or mv overwriting files where I didnt mean to. Possibly because I don't default recursive on all the time. So they tend to error when accidentality copying folders. And I tend to tab complete paths to see what is in them. I also tend to use rsync for copying large directories rather than just cp when the directories might not be empty to start with.
This should work:
$ rm -Ir f
The problem I have with this kind of thing is: I work on hundreds of different vms and containers and they can't all be setup like this AND have root and system accounts be setup like this. So you get too used to it one place and forget its not there when trying to troubleshoot. These days i tend to try and keep my shell simple so my skills transfer easily anywhere.
Same here, I even don't have ll
in my vocabulary, although it seems to be a default on Debian based systems.
You can source a script for this directly from github using curl and proccess substitution in order to temporarily have the config when and where you are without making it the default
I do the same with vim.
Edit: here's the command:
source <(curl -s https://www.raw.githubusercontent.com/sorrybookbroke/bashingmyheadin/master/bashrc
Right? I wonder why this approach isn't more common.
How do you do this with vim, btw? I've looked into it before but haven't found a fully satisfying answer yet.
That's exactly the thing. I limit my configuration to basic environment variables and define sudoers using LDAP (sss). This way I can have some preferred defaults for some tools, but I don't configure many aliases.
If I really need it I package (deb, rpm...) and deploy it either as a profile file or script/program properly.
Using a big well configured bashrc/zshrc/... is more trouble than it's worth for administrators, because it doesn't transfer between environments easily and increases the mental load by a lot. Even though the idea itself is good.
If you're allowed docker in your systems, build a sysadmin container with all your favorite tools. Then just run it locally and remotely with the root directory bound to /mnt or something
Be careful, as this can easily break many scripts.
shouldn't be a problem because scripts are run non-interactively and my .bashrc
wouldn't be read, right?
Thats actually good to know, thanks
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~~That's not necessarily the case. Most scripts will just run in the current environment (meaning your .bashrc will be used) and not define many/any arguments for commands like cp or rm.~~
~~Your .bashrc file is read whenever you start a command line shell, so by the time you can even run a script you probably already invoked your aliases.~~
~~Exceptions would be if you're running a script from cron or running the script from another shell like sh or zsh.~~
I definitely type cp -i
and mv -i
by habit, and I have a ~/trash
directory that I often move stuff into instead of deleting it and then periodically blow away completely. I agree with some other commenters that all the stuff in .bash_profile
is maybe not a good idea, but I find that just doing those three things creates a lot more safety than just the "you said to remove it so now 5ms later it's gone forever" Unix default.
For deleting specifically I use gio trash
, it should work on any gnome install.