I wish it need not have happened in my time. : lotrmemes

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 100 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The PJ trilogy still holds up today.

That's a pretty high bar

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lightning in a bottle, very unlikely to happen a second time. They tried a few times and failed miserably. But you never know.

[+] slaacaa@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was trying to describe to my MIL (who hasn't seen the Hobbit movies) how they were bad. I ended up with

Do you remember the barrel scene in the Hobbit? How would you describe it?

"It's kind of where Bilbo really felt his confidence, where he tried the ring for the first time and rescued the dwarves, and they snuck out down the river to the city"

Great great, and do you remember the battalion of orcs trying to kill them while they went downstream with Legolas and Tauriel doing sweet kick flips over them, while Bombur bounced around jokingly killing a dozen of them, and then Fili having a moment of weakness for his elf princess love while he opened the gate and then he gets shot with a poisoned arrow?

........no

Well there you go.

They took one of the most endearing moments of the book and made it a joke. No, they cannot recreate the Lord of the Rings. Even if you don't like PJ's version, there's just no way modern Hollywood can do to improve on it.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's not "modern" Hollywood. Hollywood has been pretty consistently trash over the decades, most adaptations in the '90s were shit as well.

Of course no-one's going to beat PJ at LOTR. Because no good creative is going to be interested in the challenge when PJ already did the thing perfectly so only soulless corpo-ghouls think a remake is a good idea.

But there are still flukes like LOTR from time to time when the moons align and funding goes to actually talented creators. Two years ago we got Dune, this summer we got Barbie.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Just don’t watch it.

You don’t have to watch every damn thing involving your fandom. It’s pure capitalistic greed at this point.

Let a franchise fucking die already.

Demand better movies and don’t engage with film as product. Find passionate storytellers and not greedy corporate executives looking to milk every last drop of nostalgia for profits.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I listened to a podcast (99 Percent Invisible I think) and it said a big reason why the 90s were so great for movies were the creation of cinaplexes, big movie theaters with tons of screens.

More screens meant that new or different ideas that wouldn't normally make it to the big screen (Forrest Gump, Fight Club, The Matrix etc) were given a chance, and found an audience.

Now everything is played safe. Hollywood doesn't want new franchises because they are deemed too risky, and the names we know and love are running out of ideas and passion and risk ruining the whole thing.

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[–] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Quit feeding them

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[–] potatogunkelly@infosec.pub 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

New “Lord of the Rings” movies scheduled to be cancelled after completion by David Zazlav for a tax break

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I desperately hope so. The amount of effort that went into the current movies cannot be matched by anybody in Hollywood except maybe Christopher Nolan.

[–] KinNectar@kbin.run 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or you know... Peter Jackson again.

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why, though? He already made two trilogies.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is it just me, or had anyone else lost all hope for good Lotr shows after Rings of Power? I saw lots of potential squandered by poor writing, and I fear more Lotr content is just going to be more content, not good stories.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 26 points 10 months ago

Christopher Tolkien was blocking a lot of things. Even the Jackson films sneaked by and wouldn't have been made of he could have stopped it.

He's dead now, and the new heirs to the rights like money. They also have about 20 years before the copyright expires. Which isn't that long; that's about as much time between now and the Jackson films. To keep ahead of the clock, they're greenlighting a lot of garbage and risk running their franchise into the ground.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Yep. Money grab.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I lost all hope when they greenlit the license to be used for....Golum.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Nasty capitalistses...

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

And since this is on Lemmy... the answer is pirate it when it comes out then bitch about how bad it is. Then turn it into Linux memes and communism.

[–] bobbytables@feddit.de 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So I tried to find more info on it and it seems like they are not remaking the trilogy. Multiple movies set in various time periods before the Hobbit and LotR are currently written. That's not really great but it is way better than a remake IMHO.

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

The copyright expires in 2044. The Perter Jackson series came out 2001-2003. From a studio point it is approaching the now or never time. They need to make one within the next few years to be able to make a 3rd one just before the end of copyright. From a studio buisness perspective this makes sense and is kind of a no-brainer.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago (10 children)

This shit needs to stop. Same with Marvel, Star Trek, Star Wars…. All of this shit needs to stop.

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[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gondor has no remake. Gondor needs no remake.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Alas, it is not for Gondor to decide what the copyright holders do with them.

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i love how nobody sees this as good news

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[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is an article from February 2023 about War of the Rohirrim and similar projects, not a remake of the 2001 trilogy.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I was going to do more lotr content, I'd probably do something with the Eastern front of the war. What did the blue wizards get up to?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

Likely rot in some pit

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The thing is that, even if these new ones are the most awful media ever produced. It doesn't change anything about the old ones. They will still stay awesome. They don't depreciate just because other media exist. Or that would have already happened with the Rings of Power.

I just wish they put this time and effort into other franchises. I want more Discworld.

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In a dream scenario where they can get the right people to do it, I would vastly prefer a TV series. Even with the extended editions, there's a ton of material in the books we didn't get to see. Things like the whole sequence with the elves early in the books being turned into "hey look there's some elves", no Tom Bombadil, the journey from Rivendel to Moria. And that's just the first book.

I think most would agree the world building is one of the best aspects of the books and there just isn't time for that in a feature film.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

As some kind of "filler" in a TV series is actually the only way I can see the Tom Bombadil content working on the screen. It's just too specific to work in any other way IMO, even though I would like to see something. (Especially with Jack Black as Tom Bombadil, can you imagine him ring-a-ding dillowing xD)

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had never actually fan casted anyone as Tom Bombadil, but now I will forever have Jack Black in my head.

Although, knowing Hollywood, it'd be Chris Pratt.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Careful what you wish for. You'll get a "Tolkien Cinematic Universe" pile of algorithm driven ersatz 'content'.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

That doesn't happen in my made up scenario where the world is good lol

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[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

Oh no

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Hard no

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I suppose it was only a matter of time. Please don't be total ass.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago

I remember reading that what we're seeing lately is a sort of mad dash to churn out as much media as they can before the IP becomes public domain.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When it happens, just pretend they're LOTR themed movies. Much easier to swallow.

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's going to suck ass.

Why can't these companies come up with anything new? Or at least something new that's good.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I think this is the answer why big movies suck and won't try anything new. Filmmaking has become outrageously expensive to make and market, and they have to return their money at the box office right now rather than a longer lifespan with video rental, so the companies cannot afford a flop and they stick to what's familiar.

https://youtu.be/OZ28knLt5Rs?si=Z6pUL2hN3l-d6ul1

[–] Eryn6844@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

and they are going to mess with perfection wtf.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm really hoping this is manufactured content here.

Edit: after google searching

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe they're gonna do the The Hobbit right this time?

Oh who am I kidding. It'll be the fanfic backstory of Tom Bombadil or something.

Lord of the memes