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[–] Mereo@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sigh, it's hopeless, it will not happen. Reddit is now looking to fill a "Senior Machine Learning Engineer, Ads Targeting" position (https://boards.greenhouse.io/reddit/jobs/5009252). Which means that it wants people to use its app so that it's machine learning algorithm can target ads to users and make money for its future investors.

We're talking about a capitalist platform. Reddit's whole purpose right now is to go public (IPO). Lemmy/Kbin are the only free platforms.

[–] wvenable@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have hundreds of mobile developers and can't make a decent app or features anyone wants -- I'm going to guess that whatever executive pet project that one is won't ever see any reasonable output either.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it is kind of shocking to think the company has been around for 18 years, and their app is still so bad people will pay for third party apps instead.

[–] RedditRefugeeTom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit would've been better off buying out the most profitable/popular third party app, making minor housekeeping changes (app name, app logo, etc) and moving on. Instead they show themselves in the foot a little.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, assuming their goal was to have an app that appeals to users. Possibly the one they have appeals to advertisers, although even advertisers probably prefer an app people use willingly.

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

They bought Alien Blue but then decided to write new apps from scratch.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It's a "bad" app to you because you are not the paying customer. For the paying customer (advertisers), it's a great app.

[–] Jongaros@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no use for having a good first party app when you can just kill all competition. Reddit does not need to care anything other than making money through their apps.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and the end game is data collection. Doesn't matter if users complain. As long as the users of the official app grows it is a success.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Man, there is such a huge difference in how one is led to interact with a site run for social connection verses capital funnelling. Rage and anxiety fuel the engagement. No thanks. I am so happy that people are finally dipping their toes here. I made this account a few months ago and just waited. Ever since I got into the Fediverse, I have not really looked back. I still mod some communities on Reddit but they are small and slow enough not to matter so much for quick checks.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not going to happen as long as mods are asking for it but fully showing they aren't willing to actually leave and are returning subs to normal.

What incentive is there for Reddit to change anything the way mods demand when they can't even be bothered to give the threat of leaving by setting up an alternative community off reddit?

Way this is going if I'm spez I'm confident that mods and users are already giving up and going back to using reddit. They can't leave.

[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mods have no power or say. They will be run over. It’s not their platform and their contributions are voluntary. Reddit will do whatever it wishes.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

And they sure proved that by folding immediately and showing how desperate they are to remain mods of reddit. Everyone knows they are empty threats.

It'll be all forgotten news in a few months. They'll fall in line.

[–] dan_the_accountant@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Ain't gonna happen. Reddit does not care about its users. The only way forward is the fediverse!

[–] BlahajEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago

So they’re on step 3 of grief now?

[–] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Why would third party apps return? Reddit has lost their trust in a manner that I can't see them recovering.

[–] Nusm@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Just yelling into the void.

[–] eoddc5@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even IF they reverted. Cool

Does anyone that’s shifted here care? “Oh we trust Reddit leadership now, see ya lemmy”

[–] potterman28wxcv@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit broke my trust. No way I'm going back there unless a major change occurs such as the CEO leaving to make place for a new one who is not as profit driven. But no way that's gonna happen

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go back to posting there even for a new CEO, a groveling apology, and a full roll-back of the API policy. I had a sentimental attachment to the site, but it's been going downhill for some time. They might try to fix it, but I will always know that they can ruin it for me at any time. My issue isn't even profit seeking per se, it's the way they have deliberately given the finger to the userbase. I'm just not going to spend any emotional energy trying to give them another chance.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is pathetic, in a sad way

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly they should of restricted third party apps to premium users

Its too late now as they have already killed the community

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Should have*

[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If their goal was to be profitable that's what they would of done, but it always was about killing 3rd party apps.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Fuck that. Nothing short of Reddit getting rid of its CEO, Open Sourcing their app and canceling their IPO plans would even make me consider using it again. I see a much better future on the Fediverse.

[–] TheRealBob@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pathetic tbh. I doubt most of us who left would go back anyway. Fuck spez.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Dunno. At this point, I've 98% left Reddit, but there are still a few niche subreddits with no alternative, that I might consider using a 3rd party app for.

Would rather use them for Lemmy or the fediverse, though. A 3rd party app that included access to both the fediverse and Reddit, would be ideal.

[–] LostRedditor@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Even if they make it free, I’m not going back.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Charging one cent is one cent of price gouging.

[–] dvdnet90@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A pathetic, spineless list of demands.

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