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[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

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[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Correct. Good catch.

[–] sota2077@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm confident that the Fediverse will last. Sure, there's a lot of challenges with having nodes that can choose to not federate with each other; However, a large majority should federate over time so there can be cross-collaboration. At its worst case, we'll have some segmented nodes that, while unfederated, will still foster good communities. Nodes will come and go.

While these large, centralized services for social media exist, people will always gravitate toward convenience. Unless catastrophe strikes, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. will always exist. But the fediverse gives us choice in a system where we generally had no choice but to use those platforms. After all, the alternative was old Forums that still had a solid userbase while other Forums collapsed and disappeared. If you provide a similar or better service to centralized services that is also convenient and user-friendly, then people will join the fediverse.

At the moment it is nascent, complex, and requires some confidence. Things that seem simple such as searching for another Community on another instance and joining it can be difficult for users to grasp. Over time this will get better.

Having grown up alongside the internet in its infancy, I've been very appreciative to experience the way in which it has changed over time. We're seeing another gradual shift, and a massive user base will associate with the fediverse. It's not going anywhere, but it certainly will never topple these massive corporations that have invested heavily into centralizing power, capturing the regulators and markets, and establishing themselves as information cartels that feast on the flow of money in the economy (read: parasitic leeches).

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about these other social media platforms. I've embraced decentralization and am having a blast here with the fediverse. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet. I'm excited to see where this evolves and also watch it grow.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

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[–] degrix@hqueue.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy sticking around. The explosion in users around all the Reddit drama will likely have some of them stick around, which will be a net positive. It may not be good for “doom scrolling” any time soon, but it’s really nice to see some lively conversations in communities that are just starting to really blossom.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] FewerWheels@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.

It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.

I won't go back.

[–] odama626@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I was pretty happy I was able to find my first answer on Google by using lemmy.world in the search today

It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.

I didn't have Twitter, but moved back into the Fediverse once that imploded. I had another account years ago but it was too quiet. Mastodon's growth has been crazy to watch. I suspect Lemmy will be an echo of that, maybe this time or at some point in the future. It's no matter, though. The Fediverse is slow social media, which is a good thing.

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[–] sophia@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I hope it lasts, maybe not with a huge number of users but I can live with that.

[–] anthimatter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Aslong as I can shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am

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[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit is dead to me now. Terrible media players. Bulky unoptomized Javascript in browser. Slow load times. Just trash content now.

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[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn't a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I'd like to pretend I'm a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone's dog being stupid...

[–] Sterben@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think it is just momentary, as it is the topic of the moment. Give it some time and we will forget about reddit. ☺️😅

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I sure as hell hope so. After everything that's happened over at Reddit I don't feel like going back. I'm not one to come back to an abusive relationship ya know? So like yeah I hope Lemmy lasts it seems to hold up well against the Sands of time at the very least, if it lasts as long as Reddit and things go south instead of having to jump ship, you can just migrate servers. Plus, at least at this point in time, there have been no red flags, all we need is for the userbase to participate.

Edit: Typo

If that happens I'm going to see it as an opportunity to go no-social media for a year. I've done this with other things, for example not buying clothes for a year, and my habits have changed permanently with each exercise. I'm convinced that if you can do it for a year, it starts to become part of the fabric of who you are, and if that's preferable you're unlikely to backslide.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It all depends on if Reddit continues to make decisions with disastrous optics. If this is the one and only user bump Lemmy will get off the back of Reddit, I can see it dying down in the future, but if there's more I think it'll take flight and eventually start snowballing on its own merits. I'm not sure if it'll ever be mainstream, but it'll persist - as it was before all this.

[–] Doodoocaca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

[–] BlackCoffee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] paulie420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It all depends on us. I hope for more servers that FEDERATE - I'm trying hard to cut /r/ out of my life... if we do that, lemmy and the fediverse can live on... Will you?

pAULIE42o

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.

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[–] sovietafro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.

[–] rexxiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.

I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.

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