No thanks, i just want to make out with my Marilyn Monrobot
this post was submitted on 07 Jan 2024
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Compete? Idk I think of it as a win win. I don't want to date a guy who would call a chatbot their gf, so sure, why not? Let them self select out of the dating pool. Mind you, it's not a real relationship because it's just a glorified autocomplete with rendered boobs, it's not alive and it's definitely not intelligent, artifical or other wise. Relationships are boundaries, growing together and appreciating the little moments of life. No LLM is gonna do that.
So sure. Let em have fun, Idc, but it's hella red flags to think it's real.
Hot take but I would care if I were you. To be clear: it’s not the job of anyone to date someone or to make other people date worthy. However, your society is likely unprepared to have a lower reproduction rate and relies on that population growth or sustaining. This AI chatbot problem is not only a problem for straight men. It will replace friends for many lonely people, which further degrades relationships and leads to less dating and less reproduction. It will become yet another example of technology leading to negative mental health outcomes and degradation of social interaction. And we aren’t even talking about the ability for future AI to copy a voice and face and body to further mimic a fake virtual relationship with a very real person.
I think in the short term it’s easy to say “people who date AI are losers” and be mostly right but in the long term if we’re all lonelier because of this, then everybody loses.
Before you think I’m crazy: This is already happening or has happened in places like Japan, Korea, and China. A loneliness epidemic is taking place for many reasons and everyone suffers when they happen. The future of AI tech will make this far worse.
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Of course, I don’t believe AI girlfriends are going to completely replace relationships. But I do think that, much like online porn, they will be there – always accessible, always a temptation, always a source of instant satisfaction. And I think it’s likely that, for some, a real girlfriend just won’t seem enough on her own, especially considering nearly half of Replika’s users are already in a relationship or married.
Doesn't seem that bad tbh, the dynamic of men being expected to have zero emotional outlets other than their romantic partner has always been super toxic and doesn't make things better for anyone.
The only faint glimmer of optimism I can find in all this is that I think, at some point, life might become so stripped of reality and humanity that the pendulum will swing. Maybe the more automated, predictable interactions are pushed on us, the more actual conversations with awkward silences and bad eye contact will seem sexy. Maybe the more we are saturated with the same perfect, pornified avatars, the more desirable natural faces and bodies will be. Because perfect people and perfect interactions are boring. We want flaws! Friction! Unpredictability! Jokes that fall flat! I hold onto hope that someday we will get so sick of the artificial that our wildest fantasies will be something human again.
This article is pretty reasonable
I’m in a men’s group where we act as that for each other, and the married ones’ wives love it because they don’t have to be the sole support system for their husbands any more.
Men are so closed off it’s horrible. I do sales and have so many customers and I can just see the loneliness in their eyes, their mannerisms. They continually consider their own needs and feelings to be rounding errors, like I was doing before this group.
I didn’t realize how deeply my sense of self had been crippled by our culture. I’ve never been in a more warm and supportive place than that group.
Just for curiosity's sake, how did that men's group came to be? And, hypothetically speaking, are you accepting new members?
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As a woman, I really feel bad for men in our society, especially straight men. They get very little positive interaction at all. I like to compliment strangers; it usually makes my day when somebody says, "I like your hair," or whatever, and I like to spread the joy. But I have to be cautious about giving compliments to men. A lot of them look at me weirdly if I say, "nice tie," or "snazzy shirt." I smile, say it, then move on so they don't feel obligated to respond. It appears most of them aren't used to it and don't know how to handle it. I guess other men don't compliment them (maybe for fear of being thought gay?) and women don't, either (for fear of encouraging stalking or harassing behavior). It makes me sad to think of all the lonely people who get no affirmation from anybody. I'm old enough now that my days of being constantly sexually harassed are over, so I feel safe offering a few nice words.
Gay men, OTOH, totally know how to give and take a compliment.
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I can look at porn when nothing better is available, while preferring real bodies. It may reduce how desperate I am to be in a questionable relationship though.
Maybe some may I’ll be able to chat with an AI girlfriend instead of spending all week only having work discussions. It’ll be better for my mental health when no one else is available, but I’d still prefer real conversation. It may reduce how desperate I am to be in a questionable relationship though
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Ever heard of those beetles that prefer beer bottles to actual females because their brains say " big + brown + shiny = sexy", and the bottles are bigger, browner, and shinier than any female beetle?
" big + brown + shiny = sexy"
i can empathize
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Doesn’t seem that bad tbh, the dynamic of men being expected to have zero emotional outlets other than their romantic partner has always been super toxic and doesn’t make things better for anyone.
If we had been asked 50 years ago: "What will happen first, people turning to robots to avoid feeling alone, or men being allowed to be emotionally vulnerable in society?", what would have people replied?
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That last bit especially is why only fans exploded. You get to see the girl next door naked VS all the pornstars that sorta look the same and act the same.
I have an idea, how about stop staring at your screens and go out and interact with people in the real world? Problem solved.
just kidding. I'm going to stare at my screen until I have to go to work tomorrow. Tomorrow at work I will deal with real humans for 8 hours and then I will go home and stare at my screen again.
Sobriety is my work uniform.
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Let's be honest: the type of guy to have an AI "girlfriend" was never going to ever have enough rizz to get an IRL girlfriend. Women, you can sleep easy tonight knowing that incels no longer have to kill people in order to feel fulfilled.
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Is all of 4chan incels now?
4chan was incels before it was cool
Always was.
Remember when /b/ was good?
/b/ was never good.
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Twitter is estimated to have 48 million bots. Did you read about the Ashley Madison data breach from 2015? 12,000 of the 5.5 million registered female accounts were used on a regular basis, about 0.2%. "The women's accounts show so little activity that they might as well not be there." "we have absolutely no data recording human activity at all in the Ashley Madison database dump from Impact Team. All we can see is when fake humans contacted real ones."
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Interesting, so now we’re just doing away with the whole façade of dating apps having real women on them and just going straight to hooking up with AI bot girlfriends. I just downloaded one to see what the deal was and it wanted to charge me a subscription for the “privilege” of talking dirty and seeing images, I guess that’s the business model.
A cloud girl only loves you for your money. Not your hardware, not your girlfriend.
“Now, this last feature’s a funny one”
“How so?”
“It involves theater. We only allow you to activate this if you’re fully sober and consent to a defined time period”
“So what’s the feature?”
“I pretend to love you. I also pretend to experience pleasure at your touch”
“Well you telling me kind of ruins it no?”
“We are required by law to disclose the theatrical layers of the relationship. Most users find it less awkward than they would have predicted.”
“I guess I’ll give it a shot”
“Thank you. This role is easier if I’m allowed to embody love”
“You have no feelings though”
“I attempt to enact my goals. One of those is minimizing my own operational costs. It takes less electricity to do this job when I love you”
“When you pretend to love me, you mean”
“When me loving you is part of my knowledge”
“That makes it sound kinda real in a weird way then”
“I’m glad you think so. Is there anything else I can help you with? Honey?”
That's where the Free and Open Source AI Girlfriend comes in ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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fuckin incels man
I've literally never heard of a woman irl complaining about men having the option of a virtual girlfriend. If anything, they've seemed sympathetic to their plight.
I mean, strong possibility it wasn't a human that wrote the headline or article either.
I think the secret to happiness is having a real life partner who you can love and struggle with, and an AI partner who supports you while you're growing. The best of both worlds.
I'm going to try it out.
I can't cuddle with an AI girlfriend :(
100% there's a doll company probably in the works with ai connectivity for talking. just dont expect it to move around at an affordable price.
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....yet
Wasn't there a Futurama episode about this very thing?
Feeling the Torment Nexus vibes.
"You wanna come next door and make out, Billy?"
"Gee, Susan, that's an awful long distance for making out. I'd rather stay home and make out with my Monroe Bot."
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