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I want to turn it off entirely, but the "smart" hitboxes for the digital keyboard are also so imprecise that I rely on autocorrect to accommodate my fat fingers.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Gboard is especially bad at this. If a word could in any conceivable way be capitalized, it will capitalize it.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mine constantly pulls the bait and switch when I try to type "definitely". On the third letter, it will momentarily recommend "definitely", but after an instant, say, long enough to decide to tap the suggestion, it switches it to "Def", and because I tapped the suggestion, I have to go back and delete the whole word and start over

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[–] justJanne@startrek.website 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With that, the Germans will have finally won /s

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How do they decide Which of the words to Capitalize? Are there words that are the same words with different capitalization and they're different words?

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Generally if you can put an article in front of it you capitalise it

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

AnySoftKeyboard (which I prefer over Gboard because privacy and Free Software) is even worse at aggressively capitalizing.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It always capitalizes Internet for me

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[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They also tend to believe compound words don't exist.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Autocorrect," for instance.

I'm using the Samsung one. I've tried a couple FOSS keyboards, but I just can't get used to them. They always make it super hard to find the special characters or non-English letters like ñ, which is a PITA since half my family speaks Spanish.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm using OpenBoard. I have many complaints, but finding ñ is not one of them.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think I've tried it, but I'll give it another chance.

Edit: I remember now why I can't use this one. It undoes autocorrect when I hit backspace, which is something I frequently do while typing. There's a feature request on github, but so far no way to disable this behavior. It's too bad because I like the layout and feel even more, but I can't get used to this.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

have you tried the updated fork? That's what I use. https://github.com/Helium314/openboard

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, I haven't! Does backspace undo autocorrect though? That is the only reason I haven't been able to use openboard.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

oh, it does. You could submit an issue though

Thanks, I'll submit one and see what happens!

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure what you mean

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't stand the Samsung one because it doesn't let me swear. I'm an adult, damnit. I want to be able to say what I want without my phone policing me like a child. So I use Gboard instead.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm I don't seem to be having this problem, but I remember it happening at one time. I think I've manually added all the fucks and shits by now.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing, I can't even manually add them. I searched all over the web, but wasn't able to find a solution. I think in older versions of the Samsung keyboard, you were able to do this. But newer phones or newer versions of the keyboard or something removed this feature. It's dumb.

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[–] Retiring@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same with Apple. Ducking nuts!

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[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I like Gboard because of its Hungarian layout, I have all the special letters like é and ö at my fingertips and I don't have to long-press to type them.

I once out of curiosity checked the Spanish layout, it had ñ there.

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[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My keyboard (Swiftkey) gets very excited about the possibilities when I start to hyphenate words to create compounds. It accepts that they exist, but it starts trying to throw all sorts of random suggestions in for what the second word could be (and it rarely gets the right word).

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you put it like that, it sounds very endearing 😄

How are you liking it otherwise? I'm looking for something that's neither Gboard nor the Samsung one..

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Used to be good. Still use it, but it seems to get worse every update

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

When is it correct to use compound words in english? In Swedish you can do compound words for anything at will. In English "flagpole" is its own word but "dirt farmer" isn't.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no rule. It’s just chaos. The dictionaries can’t even agree.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True there is no consistent rule, but generally the more a phrase is used, the more often it becomes a compound word

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Welp! Better go convince some more people to become destitute agricultural workers so that the dictionary is less confusing to us Scandinavians!

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

All it is is whether a compound word is common enough.

It starts in speech when the words are repeated next to each other often enough they start being thought of as one word. But can't be shortened.

If, in context, every time we said farmer we ended up saying dirt farmer. It would become compound. But in reality we'd just end up saying "farmer" when the context makes it clear. You'll see this in writing about farming all the time, initially stating the type of farmer then just saying farmer.

Flag pole started out separately, but in some conversations it would become one object. Every time we talked about the flag pole it would be one word, flagpole. But saying just "pole" would be ambiguous. There are other poles around.

It trends towards shortness, if context allows us to drop a word altogether we will, if it doesn't it gets compounded abbreviated.

No formal rule for this at all, but that's the way it happens. People try to say things more efficiently without confusing meaning.

[–] Pechente@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Even more baffling, lots of keyboards don’t support this for German that has a bunch of compound words. Swiftkey (at least in the past) even split up compound words is German, thereby messing up correct grammar and replacing it with wrong grammar. It was infuriating.

[–] girl@sopuli.xyz 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Every few months I have to reset my dictionary. My phone will eventually decide that because I mostly use the words “hope” and “will” at the beginning of sentences, the correct spelling must be capitalized. Drives me nuts

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 10 points 10 months ago

Maybe it thinks you have two friends named Hope and Will

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 5 points 10 months ago

Turn off autocorrect. I hope that will help.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Long press on the wrong suggestion usually gives you an option to delete it from the dictionary.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, but it's not like lower-case "expanse" is an unusual word. Any decent dictionary would know this.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's more that your phone has one accidentally registered you typing it capitalized and remembered it as a "name", deleting that suggestion allows it to reverts to the non-capitalized version.

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[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to this thread I have discovered openboard.

I really wish that I could use it. I try to use open source as much as I can, but the way it uses backspace to undo autocorrect is a big problem for me.

I should look into some other FOSS keyboards, though.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My phone does the opposite with lol. It refuses to capitalize it. lol.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

what does the checkmark do then

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

i just turbed that stuff off i let me jeyvoard rip rawww

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't even worry about it. It's only two or three taps to close the dialog box ad confirm that you wanted to close the dialog box. And it never happens more than once per word, I think.

I think you're missing the infuriating part. I deliberately expanded the dialog box to demonstrate that lower-case "expanse" did not exist in the dictionary. The dictionary had "learned" that "expanse" is solely a proper noun. That's the mildly infuriating part.

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