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No shit. That’s a pretty huge hole for a plane.
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If it ain't AirBus I ain't going.
That doesn't quite roll off the tongue the same but still good advice.
How about: "If it's Boeing I'm not going". Which makes me sad to say having worked there back in 2017, but it is what it is now...
Yeah.. it is pretty sad. I have always heard that even though they took over MacDonald Douglass, in reality it was MacDonald Douglass's corporate culture that took them over. Moving them from a company focused on engineering to one focused on the bottom line.
Let’s hold off blaming Boeing until we know what happened. I’ve read over at airliners.net that the pressurization issues only started after Alaska added their wifi system. It could very well be Alaska Air is to blame.
Here is a good video showing how the plug door works. My bet is someone forgot the bolts that kept it from moving. But otherwise there seems to be no issues with the design that are evident: https://youtu.be/maLBGFYl9_o?si=sRloE9z_EGPwTGcA
Well seeing that the plane was 2 or 3 months old and Boeing has had a long list of quality control, cost cutting and short cutting over the last 10ish years. I feel it is Boeing court to prove that they are not at fault.
Boeing was one of the great American companies. They had the best reputation in the world, and they have squandered it for dividends.
I agree Boeing has made some dumb moves, but this has little to do with MCAS or the 787 rework. The pictures show no damage to the door frame or the retainers that the door was held in place. It seems likely either someone forgot the bolts, or at least forgot the cotter pins in the crown nuts, which isn’t an engineering issue. The interesting thing will be to see who made that error.
Boeing would do well the fire Dave Calhoun immediately (and whoever decided to put an accountant in charge of an aeronautical and aerospace company), and put an engineer there ASAP. The decision to save money and not clean sheet a 737 replacement will cost them more in damages and lost business than a new plane would have cost.
What about the wiring bundles on the 47 or the metal shavings found in airplanes, tools found in the KC-46. There was even a report of a ladder found in a plane.
I totally get you are calling for calm, 100% a good thing. It just seems like these are not isolated incidents, but a culture of negligence.
You are right about the failure of not clean sheeting a new plane. It could easily cost them their narrow body business.
I’m not saying Boeing has been great, but to jump to the conclusion all Boeings are unsafe is ridiculous.
Aldebaran's great okay, Algol's pretty neat, Betelgeuse's pretty girls, Will knock you off your feet.
They'll do anything you like, Real fast and then real slow, But if you have to fly Boeing to get me there, Then I don't want to go
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I took a Boeing home one night, with Ron and Sid and Meg. We died in a preventable crash caused by corporate greed…
Ya know, that doesn't roll off the tongue either
Also good luck that it didn't strike the horizontal stabilizer. What an absolute nightmare.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have just lost cabin pressure"