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Court documents reveal names of powerful men allegedly linked to Jeffrey Epstein (www.nprillinois.org)

submitted 10 months ago by Nobody@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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The unsealed documents in the Epstein case have been released.

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[–] dotdi@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Epstein didn’t kill himself

[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The list: (on mobile, did my best to fix formatting, I am not fixing line breaks)

Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, -Prince Andrew

James Michael Austrich

Eva Andersson

Juan and Maria Alessi, husband and wife working at Epstain’s home in Florida

Janusz Banasiak

Victoria Bean

Rebecca Boylan

Dana Burns

Jean Luc Brunel

Cate Blanchett

Naomi Campbell

Sharon Churcher

Bill Clinton

David Copperfield

John Connelly

Alan Dershowitz

Dr Mona Devansean, -treated Virgina Roberts

Dr Chris Donahue, treated Virgina Roberts

Leonardo DiCaprio

Cameron Diaz

Glenn and Eva Dublin

Ron Eppinger

Daniel Estes

Annie Farmer, accused Epstein of sexual assault

Louis Freeh

Alexandra Fekkai

Fredrick Fekkai

Jo Jo Fontanella

Crstyal Figueroa

Tony Figuerioa

Eric Gany

Meg Garvin

Sheridan Gibson-Butte

Ross Gow, Maxwell’s press agent

Al Gore

Fred Graff

Robert Guiffre

Philip Guderyon

Alexandra Hall

Dr Carol Hayek

Dr John Harris, -treated Virgina Roberts

Joanna Harrison

Shannon Harrison

Stephen Hawking

Victoria Hazel

Brittany Henderson

Brett Jaffe

Michael Jackson

Forest Jones

Sarah Kellen, Epstein’s former assistant

Carol Kess

Dr Karen Kutikoff

Paul Lavery

Dr Steven Olson

Stephen Kaufmann

Wendy Leigh

Dr Judith Lightfoot

Peter Listerman

Tom Lyons

Dr Darshanee Majaliyana,- treated Virgina Roberts

Nadia Marcinkova

Bob Meister

Jamie Melanson

Lynn Miller

Marvin Minksy

Donald Morrell

David Mullen

David Norr

Joe Pagano

May Paluga

Stanley Pottinger

Tom Pritzker

Detective Joe Recarey, investigated reports of sexual abuse against children by Epstein

Chief Michael Reiter, responsible for investigation of sexual abuse against children by Epstein

Bill Richardson

Rinaldo and Debra Rizzo

Sky Roberts

Kimblerley Roberts

Lynn Roberts

Virginia Roberts, now known as Virginia Roberts Giuffre, accused Prince Andrew of sexual assault

Haley Robson

Dave Rodgers, private jet pilot for Epstein

Alfredo Rodriquez, butler at Epstein’s Florida home

Scott Rothinson

Forest Sawyer

Dough Schoetlle

Johanna Sjoberg, claims she was sexually abused while underage by Epstein. Also claimed Prince Andrew touched her breast.

Kevin Spacey

Cecilia Stein

Marianne Strong

Mark Tafoya

Emmy Taylor, Maxwell’s ex-personal assistant

Brent Tindall

Kevin Thompson

Ed Tuttle

Donald Trump

Les Wexner

Cresenda Valdes

Emma Vaghan

Anthony Valladares

Christina Venero, licensed massage therapist

Maritza Vazquez

Dr Wah Wah, treated Virgina Roberts

Vicky Ward

Jarred Weisfield

Sharon White

Courtney Wild

Bruce Willis

Daniel Wilson

Mark Zeff

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a whole lot of female celebrities on there. Is the implication that they visited this island to potentially indulge in the abuse as well?

[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People in this list:
Victims
Case detectives
Doctors
Staff at assorted Epstein residences
Rich folk that knew Epstein enough to have been invited to the island.

Some may have been potential victims, involved in Hollywood nepotism or money fuckery. But they are tainted by association.

Remember Epstein didn't kill himself. Those that did it did it in broad daylight and didn't get caught (yet). So I'd be surprised if the worst offenders are even on the list at all.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does the article have a link to these documents or am I going blind?

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It didn't, but I do:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/03/jeffrey-epstein-documents-list-pdf

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just give me list of names of all the top bad guys please.

[–] frontporchtreat@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-maxwell-prince-andrew-b2473096.html

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seeing Stephen Hawking on that list is wild

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One of the news outlets mention this in particular. Apparently Epstein was trying to legitimize the people he had contact with. He saw inviting Hawking as a way to make his guest list less incriminating.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Your honor, let me remind the jury that my client is friends with a man in a wheelchair"

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think the just was to try to get more legitimate people invited to the party so every invite list wasn't just sex trafficking hit list. They said that he covered this concept in some of his personal communications that were also released.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The sky is blue.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And without evidence…. This list means nothing.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It means don't let these people watch your kids.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nothing "allegedly" about it, they ARE linked. Whether or not they did anything wrong (and they almost certainly did), being mentioned in those court documents is literally a link to Epstein.

You'd think that someone writing for NPR would at least be literate enough to understand what all the words they use mean..

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linked includes victims and people who didn't take the bait. Keep that in mind before you set up the guillotine

[+] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf -31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whether or not they fully "took the bait", powerful men who hung out with Epstein are all scumbags. The ones who did after his first conviction or otherwise finding out, at least.

And of course I don't consider people linked to him through victimhood the same as the powerful men I was talking about. No good faith reading of my comment could possibly suggest otherwise.

Keep that in mind before you set up the guillotine

Nah, fuck that. No man rich and influential enough to join the upper echelon of the New York and Florida socialite scene where Epstein found customers didn't either step on or at least ignore a lot of innocent struggling people to get there. I say they're all about a head too tall.

[–] vantlem@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Whether or not they did anything wrong (and they almost certainly did)

And of course I don't consider people linked to him through victimhood the same as the powerful men I was talking about. No good faith reading of my comment could possibly suggest otherwise.

Don't really know how you can take this in a good faith understanding. You've literally just said that any name appearing in the document almost certainly did the wrong thing. Just acknowledge that there is necessary nuance here - some people named in that document have done nothing wrong.

Obviously, for anyone that underwent business or other dealings with Epstein, while knowing what we was: burn them. But the guillotine should never be indiscriminate.

[+] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Allegedly is just a way to avoid getting sued. They know what they're doing. Sure, if they're on the list, that could be argued it's not alleged that they're tied together in some form, but at least this will keep anyone from attempted to sue them over it. And all they had to do was wiggle their fingers a few more times to add that extra word.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know why media (say they) use "alleged" all the time, but this doesn't apply.

It's by definition a link. Whether it’s a significant link is another matter, but no court would be so ridiculous as to accept a lawsuit based on a misunderstanding of what the word "linked" means.

if they're on the list, that could be argued it's not alleged that they're tied together in some form

The list itself is a link. Whether it’s a link that means anything is yet to be revealed, but it's beyond a shadow of a doubt and in every legal sense a link.

this will keep anyone from attempted to sue them over it.

No it won't. There was already precisely zero risk of it.

The only thing they're achieving by adding "alleged" to this headline is to annoy people who know what words and concepts are and then spur a lot of people to tell those already annoyed people things the annoyed people already know and have been reminded of every time they've pointed out misuse of "alleged".

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Donald Trump. That's all you need to know. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. Fuck that guy, and any waterhead inbreed and wanna-be tough guy who worships him.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure. If you feel they have some vendetta against their readers and wanted to annoy you, feel free to make that claim. Sure sounds like you're a very stable person assuming that title was purposefully written to annoy people because [reasons].

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you feel they have some vendetta against their readers and wanted to annoy you

Incompetence and ignorance don't have to be deliberate to be annoying. Especially when they happen often. I happen to expect better of those who are paid to inform people of breaking news. Being annoyed ≠ thinking it's about me or otherwise deliberate.

Sure sounds like you're a very stable person assuming that title was purposefully written to annoy people because [reasons].

Again, never said that. You sure sound like a very sincere person, waving around the strawman you constructed to dismiss my rational argument as paranoid ramblings.

[+] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com -62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are victims, witnesses, and innocent associates listed in the same document. The men powerful enough to force the removal of their names from the list have already done so. This document is not a list of just pedophiles, but only a list of people associated with him.

[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you aware the list contains associates AND victims?

I agree with ZERO tolerance for pedos, but your blind violent rage is how victims get hurt further.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I also Haye children who were sex trafficked and think they should be executed

[–] GoldenDeLorean@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Kill all Jane Does!

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

unfortunately a name on a list doesn't prove much. Anyone can make a list of names, label it "evil people" and leave it for authorities to find. They can even put people they don't like on it without them knowing...overall I'm sceptical of a "magic list of rich powerful criminals".

For anyone who is found guilty, sure we can behead them...just don't start with the one attached to the neck.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 10 months ago

This comment bashing billionaires was removed by a worthless piece of human garbage moderator