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A 2 way micro USB connector. Never thought they existed (lemmy.zip)

submitted 10 months ago by sarmale@lemmy.zip to c/technology@beehaw.org

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also USB-A

But the legend has it you still plug it in wrong way first.

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago

yeah, the charging cable for my JBL headphones had similar double sided plug

[–] MassRedundancy@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 10 months ago

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

USB-C at home:

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, im ~~stealing~~ taking this and making a meme, thanks

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 10 months ago

Your meme is right above this in my feed, hah.

[+] CJOtheReal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So just like regular micro-USB?

[+] CJOtheReal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

So like mini-USB?

Still, is it the plug, or the socket that breaks? I've been holding for a long time that using sockets with tiny plastic tongues to hold the conductors, is a bat shit crazy move in consumer electronics, where a cable is prone to getting a lateral tug that rips the whole thing apart.

This includes some old Samsung connectors, all of modern Nokias, mini-USB, micro-USB, and even USB-C.

Old Nokias and Ericssons had the right idea: pogo/flex pins on the connector, and just a bunch of plates on the socket, so the cable would break but the socket was rock solid.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Mini USB has to be one of the most robust connectors I've used tbh. All my original cables from over a decade ago still work flawlessly, as well as the ports on the devices housing them.

As for Micro USB... not great. I hope USB-C is more durable, so far I haven't had any issues with ports going bad that wasn't down to some ultra cheap adapter or cable

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've had plenty of Mini-USB failures, all of them in the socket. There's a reason why when Micro-USB was designed, they bumped the required mating cycle rating to twice that of Mini-USB.

The biggest problem with Micro-USB, is that it got adopted as the standard charging port for smartphones, which proved even the doubled mating cycle rating way insufficient.

For reference:

USB-A, USB-B: 1500 cycles (but they tend to stay put)
Mini-USB: 5000 cycles (good for sporadic data transfers, and once or twice a day charging)
Micro-USB, USB-C: 10000 cycles (better for daily charging, not so much for many times a day)
Magnetic adapter, Wireless: until it burns out, but not so standard.

If you had problems with Micro-USB, expect about the same to happen with USB-C. Plugging it once a day to charge, should last 30 years; plugging it 10 times a day to "top it up", will break it after 3 years on average.

Personally, I've put some magnetic adapters in all Micro-USB stuff like 5-6 years ago, and so far only one of the adapters has broken, all sockets are like new.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 10 months ago

The problem with micro USB is that hardly anyone ever had issues with the ports or cables on mini USB, then micro USB comes along with it's massive 10000 cycles, but the cables break so easily so loads of people have problems with them. All because some people wanted smaller ports.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

I'm sure the cables work but I can assure you the terminals on devices eventually do fail. I had to replace one on my old android phone.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

mini-usb cables are robust, but the sockets they plug into were pretty fragile, i’ve had multiple break.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Magsafe is a really great idea, it's just a shame Apple came up with it first and I can't wait for it to be the universal standard for all types of external connectors forevermore. It's as close as we can get to wireless without being wireless.

[–] Phroon@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, Apple has donated the phone version of MagSafe to the Qi open wireless charging standard. Soon we’ll see a magnetically aligning wireless charging Qi2 devices from other manufacturers.

[–] IndeterminateName@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

the socket. sadly this is a design flaw with every usb connector, even type-c.

amusingly, Apple’s lightning is the only connector i’ve seen that seems truly designed for the cable to break before the socket

[–] aperson@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago

Just wait until you see the connectors that are dual lightning and micro USB.

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 10 points 10 months ago

I've found that they don't always fit properly in all female Micro USB connectors, but they are quite interesting.

[–] IcyPenguin@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do they fit in the connector?

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Theres a bendy thing in middle with contacts on both sides so they can fit in any normal microusb port

[–] IcyPenguin@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

That sounds horrible. These connectors probably break after the fifth time of plugging them in. Apple's idea with Lightning wasn't that bad I guess. But then they were to stubborn and it took them years to put USB C in their phones.

[–] cafuneandchill@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

cursed