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[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sounds like Rush was one of those risk takers and visionaries. These sorts of people hold themselves up as beacons of light and others do too until the risk taking catches up.

I remember I had a boss that liked some book they read about one of these sorts of people. My boss even had the company buy each of us a copy to read. I skipped it. What I remember though was the the guy died while doing one of their risky things maybe 6 months later. Just thought it was classic. Guy held up as an example by people in authority shows how stupid those people are by getting himself killed.

[–] polarimetric@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When things are going well, so many feel like the person avoiding or mitigating risk is silly and dramatic, and the person running headfirst into that risk is brave and rational. Then, when something awful like this happens, it’s always, “No one could have predicted this tragedy!” and they learn nothing.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the whole cause of the 2008 financial crash.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the 1980 crash, which lead to many banking regulations, which were removed shortly before the 2008 crash for stifling the economy. Stifling and stabilizing look very similar until you get to the negative parts.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

It is just the process of externalizing costs in internalizing profit. Get rid of regulations, take risks, make a lot of money, when the shit hits the fan say who could have known and get someone else to pay for it.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I've been the lame guy at so many drunken bon fires...it sucks but I swear I've saved a lot of folks from themselves, others were beyond my help.

[–] detectivemittens@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nicest thing I can say about this guy is… umm… he died doing what he loved?

[–] androogee@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly... I can only hope that when I go, I take a handful of rich businessmen with me.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

And also one of their kids, who didn't really want to go?

I don't like gloating over the death of random rich people. If people being rich is a problem then this isn't the right solution.

[–] kembik@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XIyin68vEE

This interview with James Cameron is pretty good, talks about the design issues in detail.

[–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

James Cameron seems like a really smart dude.

[–] Anissem@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The cracking is science noises that you just can’t understand, now that will be 250k

[–] LemonKiwiCherry@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why does he look like Father Ted Crilly, though? 🤔

[–] livus@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

"I hear you're a submarinist now, Father".

The water was just resting in the submarine!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Careful now.

[–] dave@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

And the money was just resting in his account.

[–] abogical@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I doubt this is true. The hull is made out of carbon fiber. It doesn't "crack", it shatters.

[–] Killer57@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stockton Rush, the former CEO of Oceangate held a patent on a system that would listen for cracking of the hull that would warn of hull failure, I wonder how it worked out for him.

[–] Hedup@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

As Cameron said, when you hear these "warnings" they tell you that you are already dead.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Say what you want about the guy. He was confident enough to convince others and hubris fucked him hard. No human deserves to die, but there should be consequences if your this fucking delusional.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Idk: I can think of some tyrants and war criminals who deserve death.

I don't think Nuremberg was a mistake

[–] BitOneZero@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Since the 1990's I've known people who ride around in old VW's because they were cool. They are not overbuilt and rust is a real problem, but I don't see people worry when 4 people are in the car. I see 6 people in the back of a pickup truck on a regular basis. People will do very risky things on wheeled transportation with high death rates. But when it comes to airplanes, they are hyper concerned about safety. I think people worry too much about the way they are gong to die or the details of a person's last week alive. Makes them ignore the risks in front of them, like car wrecks.

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