I switched back to Firefox a few months ago due to the incoming Manifest v3 debacle and I'm glad I did, it's an excellent browser.
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It's really come a long way in the past few years. It used to be so slow when Chrome came in to take over
That perceived slowness comparison lasted less than a year!
Agree compleatly. Been using firefox since it was called mosaic
I didn't know this was a phase of it's existence
Yeah it went Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox iirc.
Edit: And I think Netscape was a full rewrite as mosaic was owned by the university it was originally coded in, again iirc. That was a LONG time ago.
Netscape was Firefox? Somehow I never learned that. I fuckin loved the little space animation when a page was loading.
That's because it's not true. Firefox was first called firebird for a brief time... Otherwise its most closely related to the Mozilla browser... Netscape and mosaic aren't even related to each other... I don't know what this guy is smoking.
Netscape was my first browser on the beige apple desktops in the elementary school computer lab. I knew about it going on to become Firefox but not of anything before that. I still miss some aspects of the internet of that time.
So long ago that I had to go and use on a Sun workstation in the machine room because it wasn't available for windows yet!
Mosaic, Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox
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That's a red panda isn't it?
From their "Firefox name FAQ":
A "Firefox" is another name for the red panda.
Fuck me, I love learning, thanks for that.
I'm mainly using Firefox on my devices and have zero regrets.
I also enjoyed Vivaldi over the other chromium browsers. Still sticking with FF for now. The only issues I've had are Ms teams not loading, though km assuming that's related to 3rd party cookies ( even though o365 outlook works fine ).
MSteams is a dumpster fire in and of itself though. Even on my Windows pc it crashes when sharing my screen.
I switched mostly too. Cannot say that I have zero regrets, but FF is mostly up to what I need it to be. And where it isn't, there's Vivaldi.
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I switched back to Firefox maybe 9 or 10 months ago after using opera gx for a while. Firefox had been great, and I love that they keep fighting the good fight, so to speak.
Opera GX, just like anything related to Opera, is a massive pile of shit.
These are pretty terrible arguments.
- Google is a primarily advertising based company yes, but Apple and Microsoft aren't
- You can't compare chromium to IE - chromium is open source, and also it's actually good
The issue is the rendering engine monopoly. Apple and Microsoft browsers as well as chromium all use chrome rendering engine making them basically the same browser under the hood.
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Chromium being open source actually means jack shit. It's controlled by Google, one singular entity whose only desire is to maximise their iron grip on the internet to squeeze as much ad revenue as they can.
This isn't hyperbole, look at the recent WEI stuff or manifest v3 crap. Time and again, these corporations have showed that they just don't give a shit about the free and open internet.
Which leads to the first point, (Microsoft does seem to be moving pretty heavily into advertising though with all the bs in windows 11), you absolutely can not in good conscience use a big tech product with the argument that they're not an ad company. It's not just the ads which is the issue here. And the problem is sooner or later they'll realise they've a trove of monetisable data, so might as well do something with it. And then we'll have no choice because there will be no free and open alternatives left
Any Alternative to Brave? I have FF as primary browser but for some websites which tends to break on FF, I would like to use something non-Chrome/Brave on Windows.
Librewolf sounds like Brave, but built on top of Firefox. It also doesn't spam you with stupid ads like Brave does.
But my alt should be Chromium based for the weird cases.
Librewolf is better I think. It's pretty much a privacy hardened Firefox with the telemetry taken out. No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.
No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.
That's a great point
FF is primary but started using Vivaldi as my chromium based browser.. I'm definitely not nerd level privacy geek but it hits all my check boxes for configuration, customization, and ease of use.
I keep chromium as a secondary if something breaks on Firefox. It’s the foundation of chrome without all the silly Google shit.
I use edge for the edge case when websites don't work after changing the user agent
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As far as non-Chrome goes, there's only two other modern browser engines. Webkit which is Apple stuff, and Gecko which is Firefox. So I don't believe so, no.
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I'm on firefox and I love it, but developing sites for chrome...
If you're reading this and not using Firefox, do yourself a favor and don't wait until 2024 to switch.
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Yes use Firefox but ugh Mozilla wyd https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-report-ceo-pay-skyrockets-while-firefox-marketshare-nosedives
Trading the article, the CEO is meeting the assigned goals exceptionally well. The CEO does not give themselves the raise per se, but the board does, right?
As it turns out, moving away from Firefox is exactly Mozilla's plan.
Earlier this year, Mozilla laid out their vision for the future of their organization -- and it did not include Firefox. The focus for the future of Mozilla -- according to Mozilla -- is primarily based around Artificial Intelligence services.
In fact, Mozilla leadership stated, quite plainly, that they intend to take Mozilla "in a different direction."
When you consider the goals of Mozilla... the decreasing Firefox marketshare is no longer much of a concern. In fact, moving revenue away from Firefox, while investing in A.I. systems (and other subscription services) becomes the primary goal.
How do you switch to Firefox if you use Firefox?
oh cool my favorite thread again
Also librewolf, a more open version of FF without the shit like Pocket
81% of mozilla's revenue is from Google. "Firefox is the only major browser not built by a company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data." They just make money from the company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data.
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