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@AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world.

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

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@TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social

I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

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@danileonis@lemmy.ml

Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

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[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i've recently figured out how dynamic DNSs work, i am unstoppable.

now i just need to figure out how to encrypt traffic...

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 months ago

LetsEncrypt offers free SSL certificates, if you're familiar with reverse proxies then it's not too difficult to implement. I have mine set up to automatically renew my wildcard cert, then send a special signal to the nginx docker container for it to reload the SSL certs

A more onedrive/google drive-like alternative to Nextcloud would be Syncthing, which is E2EE and doesn't need additional config of SSL certs and the like

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I got some angry letters from my ISP when I was younger for using dynamic DNS, ranging from it being a virus to it violating their terms.

No idea of they still get pissy about it or not.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

what a shitty ISP. but i'm one to talk, i'm basically limited to two daughter companies of Telekom. god, internet sucks here.

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With Nextcloud, when you, install maps, the location logging app, uploads your photos, you can see your life laid out over a time access. It's scary it you normally give all that to say Google or Apple.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do you know if nextcloud is foss? Do you know any that are?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's licensed under GNU AGPL 3.0.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Perfect, looks like I have a small project to get started on!

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

They're a FOSS fork of ownCloud.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Any chance you could explain the basics of how the Hetzner thing would work? I'm noob

[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You go to this website from Hetzner:

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

You sign up for one of the plans, cheapest is 5.11 EUR a month. You’ll get 1 TB of storage for this.

Storage Share is essentially some space on a server from Hetzner where the Nextcloud software is already running.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Missing option that I use:

Free Google Drive mounted with rclone and then eCryptfs filesystem mounted on the Google Drive mountpoint.

I get the free space and Google only sees encrypted files.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love you so much right now

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[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

not bad too, i will not edit the body with that because i think it can be against the ToS of Google, and if not and that's become a popular solution, that will be for sure in it then.

You can loose your account so easily with them, so its better to be "reliable" ^^

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago
[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

Same, it's kind of a symbolic gesture since I apparently haven't used DB since 2018, but still, I cited them sharing files with AI companies as the reason.

[–] zephyr@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yet another reminder that the cloud is just a fancy name for someone else's computer.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

DropBox has been dead to me since 2014 when they put former US Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice on their board of directors.

[–] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 5 points 8 months ago

Even less shocking, this can’t be disabled in mobile browsers.

[–] danileonis@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Don't forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn't require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

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[–] Neato@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I do not see that option under the Dropbox settings.

[–] ghosthand@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are not testing this for every account. But you should check your settings every so often.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago

Or better yet just stop using dropbox.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 months ago

We need to move away from proprietary "cloud" solutions.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The only real way to opt out of this shit is to start using a better cloud and nuke Dropbox from every computer you own

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 8 months ago

If it's not open source and self hosted, I think it will probably turn out just the same as Dropbox. It's the power dynamic. Closed SaaS, on someone else's computers, is a very weak position. Not surprising when the relationship turns abusive.

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[–] TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I'm currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I'm using #cryptomator, but I'm sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website
Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Body of the post edited :),
Thanks for your input,

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's always Cryptomator too. VeraCrypt also works and syncs quickly.

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[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 months ago

If you have to use cloud storage, encrypt the files before you upload them

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Time to fill dropbox with gos of eroticas.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

Finally, someone will read John/John, my series of erotic John Oliver / Elton John fanfictions.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

"Third-party AI services are only used when customers actively engage with Dropbox AI features which themselves are clearly labeled,"

Should be fine since I never ever use DB then.

[–] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How is this legal? Isn't this a violation of copyright law at the very least, plus any other licenses that might apply to the files?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

i think its a scenario well accepted within the terms of uses...

Recently those of OpenAi changed btw, and that's very interesting.. to read.
They sent the mail the night of Christmas if i'm not wrong lmaooooo

If laws were made for citizens, we would know for now 😆

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Awesome photo choice!

"What's in the box?"

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I never opted in, no DropBox, OneDrive nor GDrive.

[–] Lemmyfunbun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem with cryptomater in my mind is eventually with quantum computing the encryption will be cracked. Even if you delete the file its stored somwhere else in their backups. There will be a treasure of good information even if its 10 yearas from now to be harvested.

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[–] RobotDaniel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

I would recommend proton drive as a great replacement if you want something that doesn't need a server

[–] Cosmocrat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why not just encrypt your data before uploading to the cloud?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

why return the problem on the user ?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Because if not this it will always be something else.

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