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[–] daFRAKKINpope@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The sun is going to explode, eventually. My guy. I still need somewhere to live. And I'm not about to go live in the bush.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Sun will expand not explode. Still gonna burn the Earth though, assuming orbits don't get wonky somehow

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 3 points 10 months ago

Could still be considered an explosion, just really slow when looked at from a galactic perspective

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And won't happen for hundreds of millions, to a billion plus years.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thought it was 5 billion but at this point i don't recall

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's until the life cycle of the sun ends and all it's nuclear fuel will run out, forcing it into red giant, then white dwarf, forms. However, the sun will have expanded enough to make Earth uninhabitable, from what I can find, somewhere in the the neighborhood of 700ish million years, to 1.3 billion years.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

We would've had solar engines for millions of years by then too. Isn't that hard to move earth or the sun to a more habitable distance.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

The sun is currently exploding. It's literally a giant constantly exploding nuke in the sky.

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

But hunger is real.

[–] Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Take it easy, but take it.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Money is not really fake, it's a contract amongst us to trade and remember what we owe each other. Speculation and stock market is fake.

And what do you mean society isn't natural? It's exactly that.

The only way it could be is if you oppose natural with man made/related, but then the birth of a child is unnatural. It's a stupid definition.

Natural is related to nature, and as far as i'm concerned human beings are part of it, everything we create is natural and to think otherwise is to think we're above our own biology and determinism.

And yeah the sun is not gonna explode anytime soon.

So take it easy but when it's called for and for the right reasons.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to come off as agreeing with the post, but I believe, from seeing other stuff, that "society isn't natural" is short-hand for saying that humans evolved to exist in small groups of dozens of people who have to deal with, maybe, several dozen other similar groups of people. Thus it is not in our evolved nature to exist in the massive society of today.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good point. Natural aint exactly biological but it's closer and raise an important problem.

We did evolve into bigger society. That's natural too, resources and services are easier to get with the more people.

On many levels our biology didn't follow how quickly we invented new way to survive.

The point isn't to discard society as unnatural of course, but you're right to acknowledge the problem of our biology. We do need to reconcile the two.

The internet is a prime example of that, intercommunication brought a lot of fracturing of ideologies into smaller groups for example, and a lot of conflict.

I believe in that regard federated Lemmy might be a step on the right direction for social medias.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The way I've always seen it is that "mother nature" has always existed as a metaphysical force that pushes life in certain directions. Humans are just mother nature manifested in conscious form - that is, assuming you believe consciousness and free will to truly exist and not just be an illusion. But the driving force is still "mother nature" just in a different form.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's reasonable, personally i call upon biology rather than metaphysics. But i believe it directly support your idea.

I think what makes us sometimes too arrogant, morally, is to put to high of a regard for this ideas of consciousness and free will. To the point we stop seeing it as drived by mother nature, as if it was above her.

To be more accurate it's probably more about intelligence, or levels of consciousness. (Because other animals have it too...)

Funny enough i think this moral bias also affect people that supports, respect and love animals too.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fuck posting memes in the meme community.

[–] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

Fuck not cropping out the reddit bar.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

At least crop out the Reddit shit

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

How can I take it easy after you tell me all that? Now I've got to acquire vast amounts of a real currency like gold and get out of the solar system.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I'm a simple man.

I see reddit, I downvote.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That's why I'm standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.