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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 117 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bring back "Look around you"

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] critical@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

It's classified.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

New albumen! It's out now!

[–] Excrubulent 105 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whemp, video doesn't lie. I guess the first law of thermodynamics is wrong.

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well it is now.

First law of thermodynamics: You don't talk about thermodynamics

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Third law of thermodynamics: Someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the dynamic is over.

Fourth law of thermodynamics: Only two thermos to a dynamic.

Fifth law of thermodynamics: One dynamic at a time

Sixth law of thermodynamics: No shirts, no shoes

Seventh law of thermodynamics: dynamics will go on as long as they have to

Eighth law of thermodynamics; if this is your first thermo, you have to dynamic.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sixth law of thermodynamics: No labcoats, no clipboards

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't get me started about the 34th law of thermodynamic

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[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 82 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Somebody should send this to Elon Musk.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago
[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 2 points 10 months ago

Why, I don't get it.

[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 39 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I'm a big stupid and can come one smart explain why this doesn't work in reality?

[–] lsd@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The magnet is not pulling the car, the hand holding the magnet is pulling the car.

[–] farfarawaay@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Okay. Maybe even dumb it down a little more? Just in case someone out there still doesn’t get it. Not me, I get it. Just someone else might not, and what about them you know?!

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When the magnet got glued to the car, it became part of the car so it wouldn't actually move. The reason it moves when it isn't glued is because the hand keeps pulling the magnet away

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So the end of the video where the car is moving when the magnets are glued is just an editing trick?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

It's probably one of those toy cars where pulling it backwards winds up a coil thing inside, then releasing it drives it forward.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Imagine a string instead of two magnets. If the hand pulls the string, the car moves. If the string is tied to the car?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Magnets transmit force, they don't magically create energy. It takes energy to move the car, not just a static force being present. It's the same as taping a stick to it without the magnets. Unless someone pulls on the stick (or magnet), no energy is entering the system and no work can be done.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Time to draw some free body diagrams!

Actually it would be the same force on the car if you removed the arm holding the magnet and placed a block of wood in the space between the magnets. It's a static system

[–] kyle1320@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Just like the hanging magnet is pulling on the car, the car magnet is also pulling on the hanging apparatus. Unfortunately for the car, the apparatus is attached to it, so it all cancels out.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I know there are a lot of replies already, but I feel like the best way to explain is it's similar to trying to push a car while you're in it.

[–] _danny@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I think this is the best answer. Just because magnetism is not visible doesn't make it magic. The source of the forces doesn't change where those forces go. A lot of these perpetual motion machines can be simplified to a situation that makes intuitive sense.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Basically, as much as the magnet on the car is pushing it forward, the magnet on the stick is pulling it back and it doesn't go anywhere.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So, hypothetically, what if we replaced the magnet on the stick with a stronger magnet? (I'm sure this wouldn't work, I just don't know why it wouldn't work lol)

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The same. The attraction from one magnet to the other is the same on each magnets. If one is stronger, the total attraction is higher, but still the same on both ends.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

One magnet does not pull on the other, both are pulling on each other.

[–] Sallp@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

It is both pushing and pulling at the same time.

[–] match@pawb.social 15 points 10 months ago

It doesn't work because, while the front magnet is pulling the car magnet forward, the car magnet is also pulling the front magnet backwards and the front magnet is also attached to the car, so it cancels out.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

In simplest terms, the two magnets are trying to pull toward each other equally. But when you glue them on the board, that glue holds the magnets apart, and "pushes" them the same amount that the magnets "pull" towards each other, hence no movement.

There would only be a movement if one side was pulling more than the other. The hand is providing that imbalance at first which moved the car.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] kwirky@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

I haven't been able to locate the link again, but the full video shows they're using a hairdryer to push it.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 10 months ago

Magnet want to pull and stick to each other of the different pole. When it glued to the car, the one on the cardboard will want to move toward the car and the one on the front hood will want to move toward the cardboard. The force cancel each other out so no movement will happen.

[–] Johanno@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago

Ok when not glued: both magnets get pulled to each other. The hand has to use some force in order to stay in place, so the car moves.

When glued: both magnets still get pulled to each other, but now the force is cancelled out since the force that would pull it forward also has to be used to hold the other in place.

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

In this situation the magnets act much like a spring, so imagine changing the magnets on the stick and the car for a simple spring. That is much more easier to visualize.

[–] Slow@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it's the same as trying to give a sailboat acceleration by trying to blow the sails while standing on deck.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not quite the same as the two magnets. If you have a big fan and a square sail, you're moving air, which has mass and is not attached to the boat. That alone will cause a force that moves the boat backwards. The moving air that hits the sail will not fully cancel that force due to frictional losses and air spillage from the edges.

Racing yachts are a different story. They have rigid sails that are shaped like airfoils. Blowing across an airfoil causes lift. So a big fan blowing perpendicular to the axis of the boat across such a sail would move the boat forward. But it's much more efficient for the fan to blow backwards without the sail, hence airboats and hovercraft.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The magnets are not pulling it forward.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago

My favorite part of any perpetual motion machine is where they hide the battery

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago

Cover yourself in oil

[–] Seeker@infosec.pub 8 points 10 months ago

No one is commenting about the magnet on the back of the car and possibly a magnet in the person's hand causing the rear magnet to repel against the hand magnet?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah, it's big brain time

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