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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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When the police knock on your door

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[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

More ragebait:

  • The accident happened back in January.
  • BPD car data shows it was travelling at 100 MPH but slowed down to about 70 MPH at the intersection.
  • There was no stop sign for the people that he hit.
  • Robles DNA was on the driver side airbags, so he was definitely driving.
  • Remember, most places even without the evidence above or even the eventual outcome of the case, chances are most places would fire someone for this back in January.
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Damn he’s been on paid leave since fucking JANUARY?!?!?! Jesus fucking Christ

I've seen instances in the private sector where making too wide a turn and hitting a car, or a minor fender bender, or getting a moving violation of any kind gets a person immediately fired. No administrative leave with pay. No hearing. No union to pay legal bills to fight the cause of the accident or legality of the ticket. It's way past time for accountability for the blue wall.

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

murderer is on PAID leave, what the fuck? his entire job is to prevent people from doing exactly what he just did, and he gets PAID LEAVE?

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

If literally any other job continued to keep you on paid leave pending a trial, I'd call that some amazing benefits. Most would fire you on or before your next shift.

[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

It's always "on paid leave" and never "on fire."

[–] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The problem isn't only regarding the individual police officers, it's the whole system in place that allows them to get off with paid leave after reckless manslaughter

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I interpreted the headline as he’s dead, but they put his remains on paid leave.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And here I am just impressed that he can suck off a stop light while doing 70.

[–] prowess2956@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

That's fast work. California's finest, indeed.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago
[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

he was charged? weird

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Whoopsie-poopsie, just a little murder oopsie!" - the cop

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The whole police department.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Just say it was Tesla autopilot and you only get a fine