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Often with women, if they're attractive they aren't taken as seriously (not considered as competent or intelligent for e.g.). I don't think the same problem exists with men so this makes sense.
The next question is what percentage of men are considered attractive? My hunch is it's not very high.
Well, yeah. We start higher anyway.
That might not be entirely the case here. If you are far enough up the looks-ladder to be considered "good looking", that puts you in a much higher starting position relative to everyone else, especially other men. Because according to women, most men are ugly (or at least "less attractive than average"). I'd assume that if you're that conventionally attractive, you're going to get better treatment from other men too, even straight ones.
"Good looking" men are just very rare, it seems. It makes sense to me they'd get a bigger boost in socioeconomic rating from that alone. Less to share the spoils with, as it were.
I don't think that attract men are rarer, societally it just seems like we're being judged on different scales. Something I've noticed, although only anecdotally:
If you get a group of people attracted to women to describe what an attractive woman is, you'll get a fairly similar answer.
This makes it easier to know where you stand, and also easier to become "more attractive" easier, because there is a fairly consistant goal to be achieved.
If you ask a group of people attracted to men to describe what an attractive man is, you'll generally get a few different archetypes.
A guy with a beard will get an instant 0 from some people, but it's a positive for others.
A guy with abs will get an instant 0 from some people, but it's a positive for others.
A guy with little/no hair will get an instant 0 from some people, but it's a positive for others.
Lol humble brag.
There's more to life than being really really really ridiculously good looking
...but why male models?
A pretty difficult thing to check by asking someone. assuming they have been good looking all their life, how would even themselves know any different. Pretty obvious though that it helped the model as he's literally a model 😂 Maybe there are studys to prove otherwise, but what about jealousy? That can be a pretty strong detractor. I have run into many people with small dick syndrome and most of them high up.