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I’m curious about what you think on how it will affect the Linux community and distros (especially RHEL based distros like Fedora or Rocky).

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[–] fbievan@lemmy.fbievan.live 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ehh, well it's something interesting. I've never really ever used RHEL myself on any of my servers. I do know some people that might be impacted.

[–] fbievan@lemmy.fbievan.live 1 points 1 year ago

it's unfortunate

[–] mirror_slap@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was there at nearly the beginning with Redhat 1 and kernel series 1.1.x and 1.2.x series. Redhat died when IBM bought them. My company has finally completely moved away - I pushed very strongly to dump RHAT - all Debian and FreeBSD now.

[–] thatonedude1210@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Big Blue asserting their dominance. Unfortunately at the cost of some very fantastic community projects.

[–] emr@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they given a reason? The blog post doesn't list one.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Reduce effort. They say there’s duplication between hosting RHEL and Centos, so they’ll just do Centos. Since Redhat becomes Centos anyway it seems neither here nor there.

[–] digdilem@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone who admins around 200 Rocky 8/9 and Centos 7 servers, this is a little concerning.

But I have a lot of faith in Rocky and Alma, who are reportedly working together, in coming up with a solution to ensure they continue getting security fixes and updates.

Redhat are steadily turning into every bit as anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be. It's a shame as they used to do a lot for the FOSS world. Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.

[–] beefcat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be.

Used to be?

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[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] crystalcorvid@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't going closed source though? Just not providing source to everyone. But everyone who gets binaries from them still gets access to the source code. Unless I'm missing something?

[–] cinaed666@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I am worried about the impact it will have on clone distros like Alma linux.
The code can still be accessed from a free developer account, but I'm not sure about the implications it will have on the legalities and licences.

[–] donnnnnb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The discussion on the LWN post gives some insight into why this is probably happening. Most likely due to Rocky/Alma not contributing upstream while benefiting from Red Hat's work.

[–] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

I.e. the reality of linux since its inception?

[–] anders@rytter.me 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@BuboScandiacus Hm. As far as I know it's not Fedora which is based on RHEL but rather RHEL which is based on Fedora?

[–] ozoned@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Fedora is upstream. CentOS Stream is fed from that. RHEL is fed from that.

RHEL (Stable) <- CentOS Stream (Dev Test Bed, basically RHEL Next) <- Fedora (Cutting Edge)

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