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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

I saw a presentation in excel once, I want sum it up here, but it was pointless.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My job where we run a bunch of programs that are actually VB style interfaces with an excel backend loading data from a huge database... Opening the two that we need for everyday tasks uses 10gigs of ram....

[–] danikpapas@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Guys, what is excel? Do you mean libre office calc?

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey! I have you know the corporation I work for has an enterprise database system from 2002 with two whole maintainers.

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[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Excel is a database, application/program with Microsoft forms, notepad, calculation tool, calculation report, sometimes used to make rudimentary sketches when PowerPoint is not convenient.

Imagine if Microsoft gave a shit and actually improved it! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay let me ask the question:

"You know, the company is getting a bit too big and heavy to keep all our books in Excel." What is there to go to beyond that? Lease an IBM AS/400, hire a team of COBOL programmers and have them build a bespoke system for you? Something Something SQL?

Back when I was going to school, every single one of us got one semester in middle school and one semester in high school on MS Office. That was 20 years ago. There's two, two-and-a-half generations of us who are trained to use Excel as the most computing we can do, like if you need a computer to do math you use the calculator app or Excel. If you need to compute more than Excel can, you hire an IT team and a database administrator and such.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Something like Microsoft Access is literally built to be a database, while I don't have experience personally with that program, I've heard it's miles better for that type of work than excel

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I still can't get over the fact that it was only a few weeks ago when I learned that Walter White is the same actor who played dad in Malcolm in the Middle. still blows my mind. What a prolific actor to take on such vastly different roles.

I zoom in on Walter White and try so hard to see Hal Wilkerson in there but I just can't.

[–] talisxero@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You know.... If that is true, it's possible you may suffer from face blindness

My wife grew up with it her whole life and didn't realize it was abnormal until she was about 30. Apparently it's more common than you'd think, and if washer most people have no idea it even exists, even if they have it.

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[–] schmorpel 6 points 11 months ago

Knitting pattern design

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Not necessarily disagreeing here, but what are you talking about

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Excel has one purpose, data analytics, but as it is a very powerful tool in that regard, with loads of flexible features, people tend to use it in ways that will work for a surprisingly long time, before completely failing.

A common example is to build a database in Excel, say a product catalog with all features and pricing listen in dynamic fields, then someone writes a custom macro to interface the database with external systems, and as new employees join more code is written to make the database easier to update and edit, then more systems are brought in to interface with the database, more data is added, say materials needed in production to build said products, and time calculations to findout how long the different products will take to make, and what product you can make with what you have in inventory, and more macros and integrations.

And it keeps going, but Excel has a hard limit on how much data a sheet can contain, and with all of the new features and integrations it will just be a matter of time untill a new update from Microsoft breaks critical functionallity.

And as the Excel database is used for more and more stuff, it becommes more and more dangerous to the company, at the end you will have an unmaintainable mess that is kept alive on a Windows XP VM running MS Office 2003, since that is the latest system that can run the database with all integrations

A proper SQL database is far more efficient robust, and customizable, but require more indepth knowledge about programming.

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[–] gazter@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago

At least they aren't trying to use Powerpoint for computation....

https://youtu.be/_3loq22TxSc

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Tell you something: I would have even more money for any instance where people used Lotus Notes for things it was never designed for. I would bet that this is the one program with the least applications that are actually working along the original design features.

And then people claim that Notes is a shitty program, because it was used in a way it was never ever built for (and the manual telling one that this is not a good idea).

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