Why does lemmy.world, the largest instance, not simply eat the other instances?
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2023
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Then it would just be Reddit all over again.
I try to avoid eating sh.it, but you do you.
So we end up with one instance having to serve millions of users... for free... Hmm yes that's going to work.
People on Lemmy are not going to like it but either Lemmy takes off and people will have to find ways to fund their instances or Lemmy dies.
We're in a nice period right now where kind people are able to run instances on donations or from their own pocket. But it's not going to last.
I don't think a Wikipedia-style donation system would be bad. It's better than ads.
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I'd upvote this comment twice if I could. :D
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99.5% uptime is very impressive for a community that is experiencing such explosive growth.
obligatory it's inevitable
it's impossible for me to see this image without picturing that dog's face in the dust storm
edit: for the uninformed
Strange, the spoiler doesn't work for me. I just see "::: spoiler" then the image.
Me too. In Jerboa app.
Woah how the hell did you do that arrow
Just put an image in a spoiler! You can hit the little
icon under my post to check out the source and see exactly how I did it.
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I did read that @Ruud said in a post that Lemme.world can handle 1 million users as of right now.
He hopes that other instances get more traction so the crowds are distributed.
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Damn it, I specifically joined this one because it was less popular.
Oh well lol
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But... is that even a good thing? I mean, the point of the fediverse is to distribute the load across instances.
The point is that everyone CAN start an instance and become bigger. It's the users that decide.
I like this way of putting it. Itβs like that post that was around a few days ago discussing lemmy as being βCEO-proofβ.
Itβs not really I guess, but if an instance got big and started being unfriendly/unreasonable to users they could just go to another instance and still be part of the federation.
The upside is join-lemmy.org always puts the smaller but growing instances at the top to somewhat distribute the load for new users. Also there are new general purpose instances popping up, I quite like it and as long as there is no drama you can access most of the Fediverse from almost any instance.
If it gets too much they can just stop letting people join, can't they? I think for the beginning a little bit of centralizing will make stuff easier. For the long run it might be less desirable.
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Now that's only a little sus
robots need community too! /s
I am happy to contribute! I think it's time for me to move on from Reddit. I am excited to help this platform grow and become something great - I just need to become less of a lurker.
Former lurkers unite!
Was a reddit lurker for years and became a massive contributor.
I am looking forward to continuing thag momentum. Heh.
came from reddit. lemmy principles seem to align with me open for everyone and communities run their own instance if required
For some reason, when I tried to sign up for another instance, it wouldn't send the confirmation emal or load when I tried to send it. I guess this is the only working instance that is easy to get to.
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As far as I can tell from here, kbin.social has about as much people on it.
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Please someone tell me how to delete accounts off of memmy app it drives me nuts seeing both because it loads the one I donβt want to load.
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That's because I brought snacks, who doesn't like the most finger friendly food?
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Over in kbin.social.. wondering if there will be a simple way to consolidate duplicate magazines/communities
It'd be interesting to have metamagazines or something along the like. There's a lot of repeat mags out there that would benefit from an easy way to share/federate at a smaller scale than per-instance.
I'd like something in this vein to view multiple communities of the same topic at once (like folders/multi-reddits/etc.) too.
Another idea, if possible, might be to have Lemmy search for existing communities/magazines in linked instances as you're trying to make a community, similar to how it searches for already posted links, so that folks are given a heads up to those existing communities. If they want to go on to make their own local version then it's just up to them.
Unfortunately I don't have much faith in this social network until the bot issue is addressed. There is a huge contingent of spambots just waiting for their moments here.
Spam bots or spam servers? Everyone is saying regulate signups for servers but anyone can spin up a Lemmy server and spam with thousands of accounts until they are defedarated. Then 5 minutes later do it again with a new server. Itβs not hard to setup a Lemmy server.
I actually think this is a non-issue , sure it will be a pain for a while but the decentralized model will easily adapt to this IMO. Its not like reddit was immune from bots eh.
An example is how obviously you can spot the bad actors here. I do not think is will be any more challenging indeed I think it will be easier to counter
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Any idea how many might be bots?
I don't think we have that many. The instances that were victims of bot attacks grew by more than 10k in less than a day. This instance's growth has been steady at 1k~2k per day with the captcha enabled.
I believe we also have one of the best active users to total user ratios in the 'Lemmyverse', at least for instances of this size. Fun stuff.
Also when we were hit with bots Mailgun immediately blocked emails for this instance, which proves that it's a very rare thing.
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The captcha seems to be protecting the bigger, older instances, it's all new instances that you've never heard of that randomly have 10k+ bot accounts.
https://the-federation.info/platform/73#drawer-opened
If you scroll to the list of servers and sort by total users, you can see dozens of ghost servers with thousands of accounts and like 10 active users. Alternatively, leave it on the default sorting to see all of the servers that actually have activity.
Should be pretty easy to defederate those instances if the bots start causing problems.
Awesome!
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