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Looking to draw with a pen straight on the screen, and being able to run kubuntu for example so that I can install aseprite for instance

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[–] harasho@beehaw.org 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You could get a surface and install your favorite flavor yourself: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Is it easy enough? Like installing in a normal pc?

[–] harasho@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

Disclaimer I've never done it myself but I've looked into it in the past. It doesn't seem like its too overly complicated. Just be sure to check out their features per device when deciding which surface to go with: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Supported-Devices-and-Features#feature-matrix

[–] ScruffyDux@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

I've done it on a Surface Go and while the install can be a bit more of a pain, once it's done it's a great little Linux unit.

Two PITA points are it doesn't have a normal BIOS so sometimes it won't boot from USB normally and you have to go into Windows and use it's Advanced Startup process to make it work. That then means you might have to keep Windows on dual boot.

The other PITA this can cause is you might also need to install a boot manager like rEFInd to get it to boot into your distro properly. I found I needed this with Kubuntu but not Manjaro, for whatever reason.

Both issues are a pain, but not difficult, just annoying. And once it's done you don't have to think about it again.

[–] fraydabson@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Don’t get a surface book! I know it’s a laptop not a tablet but using Linux on it has been a nighthmare.

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I’ve done it across a handful of surface products I’d say that if you’re comfortable using Linux it’ll be just fine

[–] kamin@lemmy.kghorvath.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, the only difference really is installing their custom kernel afterwards to enable missing features like touchscreen support.

It works pretty well, the only big thing still missing is camera support which will probably get solved soon.

[–] WastedJobe@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

You install Linux normally first and then install the surface kernel after. Until then you can't use the pen and touch is limited. You'll probably need at least 2 free usb slots on the surface though, one for the isntallation medium and one for an external keyboard. If you don't have a usb c dock, you'll need to figure out how to get a linux iso on a usb that includes the surface kernel, which is possible but fairly compicated compared to the usual installation.

[–] communication@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's worth keeping an eye on the PineTab and PineNote . Just keep in mind that these are community driven projects that are under development, and best suited for people who like to tinker with linux devices.

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Love eink stuff

[–] cavemeat@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Oh this is kinda cool, I love eink stuff

[–] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 3 points 2 years ago

I was looking for this. Really waiting on the pinnate to ditch note books and pencils.

[–] l4sgc@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried a few different linux distros on various chromebooks, and regardless of if you pick a chromebook or another device, I highly recommend you don't get a device with an arm-based cpu. Pick a 2-in-1 that has a normal x86 processor so you don't have to deal with compatibility issues.

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Compatibility with software you mean?

[–] PlasticExistence@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sexual compatibility. Chromebooks are known prudes

[–] islandmonkeee@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Large instruction sets are better than smaller ones....

[–] DrNeurohax@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I hear the bus width is actually more important...

[–] Apostato@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Software can be hit or miss on ARM processors, but it's getting much better. If you stick to mainstream distros/apps, you're not going to run into many problems. I'm writing this from a 2014 Acer C720 running Debian, and it does it beautifully. This old thing still gets 10 hours of battery life, and I paid less than $100 for it.

[–] l4sgc@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I guess @Apostato@beehaw.org is right though that software compatibility for arm is improving, so it really depends on your use-case and workflow. I don't remember exactly what I was doing at the time I just remember the program I wanted couldn't run on arm.

[–] tiny@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My wife bought a Lenovo yoga and loves it

[–] tvmole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have one too and also love it. Runs Linux just fine

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, I have a yoga too. It can run Linux?

[–] vinniep@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's just a PC with a touchscreen that comes with Windows installed from the store. The only thing to really worry about are the hardware drivers for the unique bits.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah. Mine is an Android tablet, so I'm guessing it's not the same thing.

[–] tvmole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, sorry. I meant one of the PC Yogas. I think mine is the C930

You actually probably could get a different Linux distro running on an Android tablet, but it would probably take more work than on a PC

[–] valvin@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

David Revoy did some search on finding a cheap hardware to draw using opensource software: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article972/my-solution-for-mobile-digital-painting-on-gnu-linux

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lenovo Yoga 370 looking amazing and there are very cheap options thank you!

[–] rimu@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I have a Yoga 530, running KDE 5.24.4. The touch functionality is really broken, basically unusable. Try Gnome, anything is better than this.

[–] DrNeurohax@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Kinda on topic, there are 2 really good deals running right now. 1 for the Surface, 1 for the Lenovo Yoga.

https://slickdeals.net/f/16728539-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-6-14-3840x2400-oled-i7-1185g7-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-1099-free-s-h?src=category_page
and
https://slickdeals.net/f/16727681-microsoft-surface-pro-8-13-2880x1920-i5-1135g7-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-610-free-s-h-w-amazon-prime?src=category_page

The Surface might be too bare bones for some, but $610 is decent. (Also, there are several "generations" in the store now. This is the middle, non-ARM flavor with 11th Gen Intel. The Surface 9 has the current generation.)

The Lenovo is a much bigger discount and better specs, but I've heard worse stuff about the Lenovo support. Apparently Lenovo's consumer support and build quality is very different from the business offerings.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've bought a DELL Venue 11 Pro 7130 just recently for the same reason. Seems to run Fedora 38 just fine.

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Can you use a pen straight on the screen?

[–] MaxFuryToad@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just watched this review that may be exactly what you need: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uCa-8isUxno

[–] shadowtux@fedi.shadowtoot.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Looks awesome and promising! Only thing is that they are still work in progress and not fully done product. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fydetab-duo--2#/updates/all

[–] Felix538@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm daily driving a yoga x380 and am really happy. Using the pen for quick notes on my professors slides. I use Zorin and Win10 in dual boot but only really use Zorin. Only thing that doesn't work on Zorin is the HDMI port but I didn't really bother to trouble shoot.

[–] variouslegumes@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Seconded. I daily drove a yoga for some time (really a flex). It worked pretty well. Definitely check the compatibility of whatever laptop you choose before though. I had to manually install a driver to get the touchpad to work everytime I updated the kernel until it was finally merged into mainline. 😬

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