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The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.

The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.

The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.

As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 114 points 11 months ago (4 children)

15 countries voting, they lost 13-1 (UK abstained), literally only the US voted against the resolution and yet they can veto it.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It is clearly US and UK vs Gaza children.

"Oh hamas did this and that so lets kill them all, stop water food and aid and move 2 million around" is not justified ...

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This was always the plan.

People are wising up but I doubt anything can stop it now.

Cat is out of the bag.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 11 months ago

Username checks out.

No but seriously, you're right.

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does a "no" vote by the US automatically veto it? Or did they have to take an additional action? If the vote alone didn't veto it, that's the perfect place to hedge your bets. Vote no, then don't veto it. You can claim both sides then to appease everyone.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Well that's dumb. But rules are rules.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

aww shucks we have to allow genocide its the rules

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It was more meant that they couldn't vote no then not veto. That being the case they should have at least abstained like the UK.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 91 points 11 months ago (1 children)

US refuses to block Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 24 points 11 months ago

US actively supports Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't expect Joe Biden to act against his interests, but I also can't believe he thinks this is in his interest! Are there that many people in America who think this is the right thing to do? People danced when Henry Kissinger died, who fails to see the legacy of this?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Middle America. Specifically people in purple states. Biden is coming into an election that’s sounding like it’s going to be won by 5 votes or lost by a million. He’s trying to win support in swing states. Unfortunately those swing state voters tend to be union guys, who are more conservative. They like a blue collar guy, but they want him to have hardline stances on things. We’re hearing conflicting things from this administration for a reason. A veto on the UN makes headlines and sounds like the US is being supportive, but we’re also hearing about back room conversations where the administration is voicing their disapproval of the bombing and threatening to withhold funding. I imagine if this was before the war in Ukraine we would see a different reaction by the Biden Administration. Plus Israel gives us a launch point into middle eastern operations.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That makes little sense. Why would blue collar workers support Israel’s genocidal bombardment campaign? It’s not in their interest. The UAW is even calling for a ceasefire.

Also, the Biden administration can claim all day that they are in back room negotiations with Israel. However, those claims ring hollow when they’re simultaneously trying to pass bills in congress that unconditionally give Israel military aid. People see that and naturally lose faith in anything the administration says.

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

He's banking on "trump bad, I good". So many idiots are falling for this and will chase you out of the room with their pitchforks if you said you won't vote for genocide Biden.

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[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

These are times when I'm ashamed to be an American.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago

I'm 70 years old. Of course it's not the first time. Cute meme though.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nowadays I wonder if you guys have any times you aren't.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Trump years aside, I've rarely been so ashamed of my country. And I'm no spring chicken.

[–] yolo@r.nf 24 points 11 months ago

UN is the change.org of the real world. The idea is great but it only works on extremely rare cases. I know its purpose is to stop next world war but it should stop trying to seem like a platform for discussion as there is no discussion to be had when you give someone power to veto any resolution.

[–] rando895@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago

No one should have veto power, it makes any organization extremely undemocratic. And given the American arsenal, it's already difficult to be democratic.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (33 children)

Genocide Joe is insatiable.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every civilian death in Gaza going forward is a direct consequence of US actions. US is directly responsible for facilitating a genocide.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

The UN with their permanent members are a disgrace. All they do is uphold imperialism and say please don't do that.

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