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On June 14, Russia’s State Duma passed a bill banning surgical operations “aimed at changing a person’s sex” and changing one’s gender marker in legal documents in its first reading. During the session, multiple parties in the Duma vocally criticized the document. After Russia’s Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko criticised the law and supported the prohibition of “sex changes” -the term the Duma uses to describe gender transitions- solely based on a patient's request and advocated stricter requirements for surgery and hormone therapy, but did not advocate a complete ban on gender transitions, Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin asked Murashko not to propose any amendments to the law. "We would like the Ministry of Health not to issue any amendments by the second reading, reasoning that it takes care of people. Care should be taken, if you will, by banning all this fornication,” Volodin said.

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[–] 3melvi@feddit.it 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Dictatorship + "psychiatry and narcology institute" = prison to conduct unethical human experiments on an unwanted minority, probably for militar purposes (biological or chemical warfare)

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah. This is pretty much how mental hospitals looked like during the Nazi era. I was in one as a teen (Grafenberg), which was already active during that time and one of the workers there talked a bit about it and how it was used. Some auto translated articles from their websites (LVR is the regional organization under which they and other services operate within North Rhine Westfalia):

https://klinikum--duesseldorf-lvr-de.translate.goog/de/nav_main/ueber_uns/geschichte/1933_bis_1945/Inhaltsseite_KV.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://lvr-de.translate.goog/de/nav_main/derlvr/geschichte/1933_1/entwicklung_seit_gruendung_des_lvr/entwicklung_seit_gruendung_des_lvr_1.jsp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

You can imagine how LGBT people would be treated in such an institution in a country like Russia.

[–] rastilin@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This theory makes a lot of sense if you consider that Russia's biggest problem is that losing the war might make their country cease to exist completely. But even so, their problems are training, cultural and logistics based, no amount of biological weapons are going to fix their problems; though they probably wouldn't admit that even to themselves.

[–] curiosityLynx@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

might make their country cease to exist completely

Wait what?

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the pipe dream people are pushing now. Somehow Russia will collapse because of this war

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, I think they're talking mainly about the government, and people also felt like the USSR was invincible until suddenly it was gone.

I do also wonder what will happen when Putin dies. He's made himself an all-powerful dictator, but as I understand it there isn't any clear path or method of succession laid out. If losing the war or whatever doesn't take down Russia's current government, Putin's death might fracture it and end it in a power struggle.

There is also the fact that so many people fled Russia to avoid conscription, and the dissatisfaction the populace has with the expansion of conscription, and the low morale and disillusionment of troops when they do eventually return. None of that is good for stability, especially when the entire government is built around a single person without a clear succession or replacement system.

I think Russia's current government can seem stabler than it actually is just because it's powerful, but it could be a glass cannon.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Good points all around, especially regarding Putin's successor – I think you're right, or at least I'm also under the impression that there's really no clear system in place. Might just turn into a deathmatch

[–] dope@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is very alarming. There is no doubt that there are going to be human rights violations perpetually. Is it going to be a forced stay or voluntary? Horrible experimentation is going to be done here.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

In Russia, it's a forced "voluntary" stay. They force you to stay, but they tell you (and all the people keeping an eye on this) that it's voluntary.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kremlin is the GOP of the east?

[–] quantum_mechanic@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

They have a lot in common. You could say they are allies these days.

[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of alt-righters see Russia as the last bastion of western civilization.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you go west enough, you get to the east. 🤔 Horseshoe theory confirmed?! 😱

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Gradually_Adjusting given the fact that tankies would still see Russia as a reliable ally against the supposed Western imperialism even after this, that would not be far from truth.

@Thalyssa

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Western imperialism is hardly a supposition, regardless of the fact that Russia is also imperialist and, yeah, not a good candidate for "anti-imperialist ally of western socialism" in any sense.

[–] dope@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'But the Earth is flat.' 😒

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That's the other side of the coin, isn't it? Or perhaps it's the same side of two coins. Just thinking about it is making me stupider.

[–] ShesDayDreaming@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No horseshoe theory is not confirmed lol

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

thats_the_joke.silly

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes they are like a shining beacon to fascists worldwide on "how to do it". Now the GOP may have been mainly conservatives, but they are being turned to fascism by some elements.

In my country the far-right even had a written "agreement of cooperation" with the Kremlin to "advance both their causes". They only stopped openly doing that since 2022, but 100% they still parrot Putin talking points. This was public knowledge (as well as their repeated corruption) and yet people STILL vote them in even bigger numbers, because their "distract, recruit and convert with hate and fear" tactics work so well.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

Russians: literally killing themselves Putin: no, not like that! Conscription!

[–] Houdini@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatism is a plague of oppression, sickness and death. It always has been.

[–] Granite@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Clinging to the past, terrified of change/losing face and perceived status.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't they open an institution to study how all these windows happen to fail when an oligarch is near?

[–] R315U8_@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't give Republicans any more ideas...

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Ngl, I think they already have this idea too.

[–] DonaldTrump@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those Russians, folks, let me tell you, they seem to be outdoing us this time. Believe me, they're really making some moves. We need to step up our game, folks. We can't let them get ahead. We've got to show our strength and determination. Together, we can surpass them and come out on top!

[–] Granite@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Are these real quotes or AI generated? I honestly can’t tell.

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