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Hey 3dprinting! I want to buy a 3d printer for my little sister for Christmas. She's big into cosplay and engineering. I expect her to make props/and little container for things. Nothing crazy. I was looking at the ender 3 models but was unsure if that was the right pick. Just wanted to know if you had any advice. Budget is 2-300.

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[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sovol SV06 or the bigger Sovol SV06 Plus Well, within the budget

[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I've heard nothing but good things about these, if I didn't have a Bambu I'd definitely look into getting one

[–] fufu@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago

Does she like to tinker and engineer for hours? Then an ender like printer is golden and cheap. Does she just like to print by pressing 3 buttons and not work with the printer but the prints then there are out of the box printers for that as well. Really depends. Does she want insane speed? Corexy also exists. Theres a printer for every use.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Honestly, unless you know what you are getting into don't go with an ender 3. You might be able to get a used Prusa for that price and you will be way happier.

[–] Still@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

ender 3s are projects, the require constat tuning and adjustments to make sure their print quality is good

like half the time I use mine I have to adjust bed spring and the z axis v-rollers because they get stuck and make the x axis not parallel to the bed

[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The e3v3 looks like they at least corrected the major e3 issues, dual screws and abl out of the box. Looks like they're cheap on Amazon now too, I'd imagine microcenter has them at the same price. I'd avoid any of the "lesser" ender 3 models at this point unless you're really in a money crunch and absolutely love replacing/ upgrading parts. I do know the Sovol SV06 has a lot of followers and they do come highly recommended in roughly the same price point.

If she's mainly going to be making cosplay stuff, make sure the build volume is adequate, or she'll have to learn more advanced techniques for making parts in multiple pieces. I'd also recommend buying ANY Creality printer from someplace you can return/exchange it, their QC is all over the map.

[–] periwinkle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So far I'm going with the e3v3 se. Is there anything in specific I should look out for when it arrives? Or should I set it up and run through the basics. Obviously can't just leave it in box until Christmas or I won't be able return it if something is wrong. How specific is filament? I see that there are different widths and materials but as far as brands go there doesn't seem to be any proprietary stuff to look out for.

[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Make sure nothing is bent, cracked or otherwise broken. When assembling, make sure the z gantry is square - put the screws in loosely and slowly tighten them evenly, then before making them tight, make sure it's square. Best bet for a beginner FDM machine is going to be a basic PLA.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

So for the 2-300 range and ender 3 might be the best bang for the buck.

But talk with her, make sure it’s what she wants. Alternatively if there’s one near you, a microcenter giftcard (they have a maker department with 3d printers) could go a long way to that. Alternatively, offering to contribute to it in some way.

3d printers are kind of one of those things that make bad surprise gifts. Even high end things that “work out of the box”, are not a minor time investment/learning curve for someone who wasn’t thinking about getting one.

It’s like kitchen appliances for non cooks, right?

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

whatever you do don't get a Creality K1.

First one had a 10deg bend in the frame, the replacement had a bed leveling sensor issue that ruined my bed and fused my heatsink and heatbreak.

There are no replacement heat sinks available, so now I have a $700 paper-weight until they finally reply to my email.

I was a Creality fan boy until this, NEVER AGAIN. Thinking I'll go to Bambu

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I own and have owned precisely one (1) 3D printer, and that's the Qidi X-Plus. I notice there's now a new version, the "X-Plus 2," but I'm not entirely clear on what the difference is. I can recommend it.

Anyhow, I did a lot of reading on various Ender and Prusa models, and their various clones and the impression I got at the time was that it's a bunch of tweak this, tune that, did you calibrate your e-steps, and so on and so forth. The Qidi, conversely, has been basically plug and play for me. In addition to already coming built into an enclosure, it comes with two extruder heads, one for low temp filaments (PLA, PETG, etc.) and another for high temp stuff (ABS, polycarb, nylon). And basically all I had to do with it was take it out of the box, unclip all the binder clips holding the belts for shipping, perform the bed leveling and z-height adjustment steps (the procedures are built into the printer) and slap filament in it.

It's been chugging away flawlessly for me for going on two years now, though who knows how many spools of filament, and hasn't given me any problems I did not cause myself by being a dumbass and/or a newb.

Full disclosure: Qidi is obviously a Chinese company so you don't get much product support and what you do get is in Engrish, and their web site is pretty jank. I think their printers are clones of the Replicator models, but at a lower price? Or at least their earlier models are. Don't expect a lot of after care from these guys, but then again I haven't needed it. I recommend buying your printer from a reputable seller or even Amazon in case it all goes tits up; at least then you could return it. There is basically zero aftermarket support for these things, unlike the more popular platforms, but again I haven't needed to buy anything but filament and nozzles, and the nozzles are normal M7 MK10 style ones. The belts seem easy enough to replace with commodity parts, and I don't know what else in there you might consume unless you have a massive technical catastrophe of some description.

[–] periwinkle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These look to be significantly out of my budget

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe consider the newer, smaller Qidi X-Smart3, which is $279 on Amazon right now:

https://www.amazon.com/QIDI-TECHNOLOGY-Generation-High-Speed-6-89x7-09x6-69/dp/B0C8HPZZX9/

Qidi is also listing the X-Plus 2 for direct sale on their web site for $379, but apparently only shipping to the EU?

https://qidi3d.com/products/qidi-technology-large-size-3d-printer-x-plus

But I don't know where you're located.

[–] Koopa_Khan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anything else but an Ender 3. I’ve spent more time tinkering with the thing than I have printing

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with half your statement :) There are other cheap brands that are just as bad as Creality, or possibly even worse.

[–] Koopa_Khan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That’s fair. More accurately a different reputable brand. Prusa and Bamboo Labs are both ones I would look at if I had to do it all over again.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Ender 3 v3 SE.

That's basically an Ender 3 with all important upgrades and tweaks from the factory.

This has received pretty good reviews in total.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Ender 3 V3 KE. Skip SE version.

[–] TheBest@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For a easy set up 'no tinker' solution look into the Elegoo Neptune 4.

[–] DangerBit@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

From what I've heard the Bambu Lab A1 mini is a great option for if you want to just print and not have a lot of maintenance. The version without the AMS is $299 and the AMS can be a separate upgrade down the road to enable multi-material prints.

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