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[–] fruitywelsh@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

They should challenge him to get a peer review through a respected journal instead....

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Anti-vaxxers are already too stupid or too mentally ill to be swayed by things like facts or evidence. Engaging them would not only be a waste of time, it would paint a target on this scientist’s back for ever kook and nutter whose delusion is threatened by them. And the last thing that any expert should do is give these nutbags any legitimacy by engaging with them.

[–] pieceofcrazy@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I were him I would accept, but no public broadcasting whatsoever.

Maybe I'm a bit too idealistic, but I don't think ignoring them is the best thing to do. We should talk, and talk, and talk, responding to the same stupid arguments over and over and over again, just not turning it into fucking entertainment like everything is nowadays.

It's surprising how reasonable most people are once you talk to them outside of social media.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Giving them any attention whatsoever, even in private, legitimizes them— even in their own minds. This is why they do whatever they can to provoke you into giving them attention in the first place. The minute you give them any attention, you give them power, and that’s what they truly crave the most. Because they are weak, and that’s why they cling to these delusional beliefs in the first place; they’re desperately grasping for control over their own lives in a world where they have no control, and that terrifies them. As a result, that manifests in an absolute need to control everything and everyone around them.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

1000% this. It will do good and only bring harm to the scientist.

Two rich guys who contribute nothing to the field demand time and attention from expert. It's wild that we have people who can throw out a number like 100 thousand dollars as a "bet".

[–] misterhuh@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I remember watching a documentary on flat earthers. I can't remember the scientists name, but he said he would be happy to engage them after they answer his question; "What if anything can I possibly say to change your mind", if they gave him a valid answer like show me x data, he would talk to them, if not he made his goodbyes.

So what would possibly change this cabal of intellects mind I wonder?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

No scientist should tarnish their own credibility by giving these grifters a platform for debate.

[–] gmatkins@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

A standup turned game-show host and the world's most successfully failed venture capitalist are the policy shapers this world truly needs. /s