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Biden used to keep quiet about Trump. Now Biden's invoking his name to raise alarms: npr (www.npr.org)
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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Biden is too old to be running for president. He should have just did the one term and stopped. But he didn't. So, to save the American democracy, I'll be voting for Joe. He has done a good job as president and he'll put people on the Supreme Court that will support workers, women, minorities, and the LGBT. He'll protect the voting process.

Trump is too old too. And he is a criminal and liar who wants to destroy our democracy. He is only interested to helping his rich peers and hold on to power. He'll continue to hurt all the people Biden would help. He also wants to make this a Christain nation. So yea, he is very UN-American. Don't vote for him.

Everyone, be sure to vote.

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you want to get people excited about Joe as a candidate, you might want to stop couching your endorsements in "buts." Just sayin'

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right?

Like thank god for the American Rescue Plan that...checks notes...

...by itself lifted more people, including more children, above the poverty line with government assistance in a single year than any other piece of legislation enacted in more than 50 years.

Too old to be running for president? Sure. But somehow, this geriatric motherfucker has done more for child poverty than any other president in the last 50 years.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Biden has actually had a lot of successes, it's just that people refuse to acknowledge them and one of the biggest faults of his campaign is focusing on "Bidenomics," which has worked, but hasn't really done much to help people with food costs or stretching their paycheck. What he really needs to focus on is the disastrous ruination of the country if trump ever gets back into any sort of public office. Because if that happens, america will not only no longer exist, no one in this country will survive at all.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's still a year out from election at this point. Right now he's formally not running against Trump (properly he hasn't even been nominated himself) so until the nominations are set it's not helping anyone to effectively endorse a Trump nomination by running the campaign as though you already have a listed opponent. It's a pretty well given, but treat it as if it's not.

People have an exceptionally short attention span these days. Making a more generally economic policy framework as the message rather than speaking to specifics now allows them to leave the details until closer to the election when people have a better chance of taking note and remembering it for the next few weeks until they can vote and then go back to their regular lives.

At this point the population has become so polarized that all nuance is lost and people are just voting to keep the abomination that is the other site from utterly destroying the country.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

I agree with your points. I just feel that focusing on economic policy when most people are mired in debt and feeling impoverished isn't going to really help gin up Biden's chances. He isn't really the one responsible for inflation or the vast debt people are in, and in fact he's tried to erase student debt with no help from republicans. But - I think people "tune out" economic statistics and only want to hear how their paycheck is going to be bolstered. And for some reason they think trump can fix that - even though he actually will only make things much much MUCH worse.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

I don't care if they're excited or not, they need to do their civic duty and vote for the candidate that will be best for the country. I don't need you to fall in love, I need you to do your job.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I, too, am voting for him. But only as a small stepping stone towards (hopefully) something better.

I'm super fucking annoyed at people I know of that are voting for Trump just to "shake things up". You don't shake things up by voting for something that will absolutely decimate any and all progress. That will significantly alter positive ways of life for a majority of the US.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really hope Biden and the Dems will for once play political hardball against Trump the way they did against Sanders.

[–] assplode@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Same here. Biden has given me hope they actually will.

Instead of the usual Dem capitulation to shitty R demands, he's told them to get stuffed.

This seems unprecedented in modern history.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As an editorial in today's Tribune noted, Biden's age should not matter. What should matter most is that he's had success in keeping our country together and enacting economic reforms that ultimately are working, no matter how skewed the public's perception is (i'm just paraphrasing from the article). I agree that age isn't really the factor that should determine who wins. What is really horrifying is there are people who think because Trump didn't completely destroy America already, he deserves a second chance at it.

I'd rather have anyone, even Jeff Dahmer, as president. (even if he is dead already). A do-nothing president may be just what this country really needs.

[–] NoxNap@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Honestly hope he is reelected and dies in office. Maybe then the American people will realize that electing people that should be in a retirement home should not be in politics, especially as president.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

On the Saturday after Thanksgiving, when not a lot of people were paying attention, former President Donald Trump posted on his social media site that Republicans should "never give up" on repealing and replacing Obamacare.

The past week of political conversation about health care is a case study in how the Biden campaign intends to draw contrasts with Trump and amplify the former president's words to motivate Democrats and persuade independent and moderate Republican voters.

By Tuesday morning, the Biden campaign put together a press call with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi discussing "the dire threat to the health and wellbeing of American families posed by Donald Trump."

"Talking about rounding up Latinos, banning muslims, rooting out his political enemies like 'vermin,' echoing the rhetoric that we've seen from folks like Hitler and Mussolini in the past," said Tyler, listing just some of Trump's recent pronouncements and proposals.

As the Biden campaign sees it, the former president's extreme ideas are barely breaking through with voters, thanks to a combination of Trump fatigue and a fractured media environment.

This is a pretty dramatic shift from a couple of years ago when Biden world treated Trump like Voldemort of Harry Potter book fame, the one who must not be named.

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