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Does such a thing exist? A coop cloud provider? A unonized cloud provider? An ethical cloud provider? A good guy cloud provider?

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[–] thisfro 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can look at infomaniak, they host everything in Switzerland and use 100% green energy. They also build on open source standards in a lot of places.

But in the end, servers are power hungry and need a lot of rare earths, other minarals and large amounts of energy to be produced.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting, lots of good stuff here. Pretty good prices for small instances. 🤔🤔🤔

[–] thisfro 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use the public cloud with the smallest tier with storage to host a django app: https://pflaenz.li

It costs around 4$/month and runs great!

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This really depends on the services you’re interested in. If you want something like aws, then no 🙂

There are plenty of other service providers that do things more ethically. Bitwarden is good, random example in my opinion. The software is e2ee and their service just syncs data between your devices. It’s not really possible for the bitwarden, the company, to read or mishandle your data in a way that matters. Note that this doesn’t apply to the credit card info for paid accounts. Still, this is what I consider “the good guy”.

So what services are you looking for?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

VMs with external IPs would be enough, so your typical VPS. Updated the title.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago
[–] anzo@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Oh yes, this is useful!

[–] Nexz@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m a big fan of DigitalOcean, they’re very much geared to developers. Had a chat with them a couple of days ago and they seem good guys. IMHO way more ethical than Amazon.

[–] clothes@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's worth pointing out that they're now a publicly traded company.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago
[–] poVoq 4 points 11 months ago

There are some small co-location data centers like that, but consumer VPS provision at competitive prices needs a scale that is hard to reach for a coop.

[–] flappy@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Definitely not Hetzner, lol.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Hetzner?

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Have been customer with hetzner for more than 10 years and they are awesome. First physical server (HDD swaps in 10 minutes!) Now on their cloud environment. It just runs and is cost effective!

You can even use terraform to describe your resources and have them created automatically, or use the API from any programming language.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you are willing to join a German cooperative, you could (German language only):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostsharing

They are quite expensive though.

https://www.hostsharing.net/downloads/hostsharing-brutto-preisliste.pdf