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America’s Far Right Is Calling for Civil War in Ireland (www.wired.com)
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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Right before the whole country wakes up and laughs at the notion, let me just get this out of the way.... Nobody here gives a fuck what Bannon and his ilk want.

The recent riots started with the stabbing of children followed by some mentalers riling up a tiny number of agitators. At the scene folks were understandably very upset but it was a Brazilian who stopped the attack (bless his soul) and a heap of money has been raised for him.

What then happened was a bunch of scumbags jumping on the bandwagon so they could rob new Nikes from Foot Locker and cause a bit of mayhem. That's it.

The political spectrum here really runs from left to centre right (and by that I mean around the democrats in the US). There is no right spectrum party.

So... Anyone calling for civil war here can fuck right off tbh. Absolute nonsense of the highest order.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It kind of pisses me off that the article doesn't mention the Brazilian person.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Yeah what an absolute champ he was. Fast and decisive.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Ireland still remembers what a civil war is like, and nobody who knows wants one. Bannon and the American right wouldn't know Troubles if they came up and bit them in the face.

[–] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 9 points 11 months ago

Succinct and entirely correct. All Irish “conservatives” want is farm subsidies and no inheritance tax

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Some people in Ireland obviously do. Thankfully, it appears to be a tiny minority.

The problem is really the same as the right wing loonies in other countries: they are using modern media, perhaps with the assistance of foreign agents, to amplify what they are saying and make the movement seem larger than it really is.

Then loonies get a lot of disgruntled people to sign on to single parts of their agenda. When you're struggling to get by, it's a lot easier to support someone who claims to have easy answers, even if those answers are designed to never be achieved. These loonies will always have out-groups they want to ostracized, and some people may go along, not realizing that they may be next. (And not realizing that the total Nazi-lite agenda doesn't include the plebs at all, other than to get them to vote against their interests.)

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 53 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Okay, Ireland will do a civil war if America's far right can find it on a map without Googling.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's, like off the coast of Perth, right?

(/s)

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's outside of Cleveland right?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cleaveland, Ontario? sure!

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[–] assembly@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dude I think they can find Canada just fine so shouldn’t be hard to find the island off the coast of Canada…was it the left or right side?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

To be fair, it is an island off the right side of Canada…. by a couple thousand miles.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To the left. You can see it and Russia at the same time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Oh, so it's right outside Sarah Palin's house!

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Hint: look for the green part

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I was going to type this as a joke, but on reflection I think it's 100% unironically true:

The only reason they care is because Ireland's right-wing hooligans are actually willing to physically mob up and attack immigrants and police, whereas a lot of the right wing in the US is too skeered to get into the streets and do the same un-stochastically ever since Ashli Babbit. They wish their followers here would do the same and can't wait for it to start to happen.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most of the American right is afraid to travel to any large city without a gun.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would be a big problem if they travelled.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branson,_Missouri

The redneck version of Las Vegas. Lots of G-rated entertainment with shows that don't run past 9 pm.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pops can't leave loaded gun to go to his bathroom.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love chatting with 2As online. They all swear that they are responsible gun owners who keep their weapons locked up, and go to the range to keep up their skills. They also hate the idea that insane people might be denied guns for any reason.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago

That's what makes me sad. I know people in the north that have intense weapons closets for maintaining humidity and security. Meanwhile relatives in the south have loaded guns in the closet next to the umbrella and waving them around the house. So irresponsible.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ireland should do a civil war against America for whatever the hell was going on in that weird parade scene in the Fugitive where they’re all dressed as leprechauns.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Make the Chicago River run red? A very Charlemagnian solution.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Tucker Carlson, who now broadcasts his show on X, told his millions of followers that “the Irish government is trying to replace the population of Ireland with people from the third world.”

Former White House adviser and 2020 election conspiracist Steve Bannon, who is currently strategizing for former US president Donald Trump, responded to Carlson by declaring: “Ireland is a powder keg.”

Elon Musk, who this week told X advertisers to “go fuck yourself,” also weighed in, claiming on X that the Irish prime minister “hates the Irish people,” and agreeing with another far-right influencer who posted on X saying Ireland needed McGregor to run for office. “Not a bad idea,” Musk wrote in reply.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Isn't Ireland, by definition, a third world country?

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What in hell do they hope to gain from stoking these fires?!

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They want Irish conservatives to show U.S. conservatives that it's possible to rise up and kill the normal people and get away with it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

That was in the very darkest corner of my mind, but I didn't let it out. Jesus. I never thought America would come to this.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

They've based their internal subconscious model of self worth on being anti-left. They're just reactionary regressives.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

They're shit stirrers. That's it.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Practice.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Bunch a cunts.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Since Ireland still hasn’t gotten Northern Ireland back, they’re basically still in a civil war.

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's a weird way to frame things given that a sizable majority of North Irelanders don't want to reunify.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't follow that particular but if politics very closely, so I'm genuinely asking: is that still the case post-Brexit?

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the OP is correct in their clain that most NI people do not want to unify

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, they're factual correct in saying that (assuming proper sampling). Also I feel like the international audience who might not be versed in Irish history should appreciate that there's a polarized background to the issue given the colonial history.

[–] SomeBloke@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I get where you're coming from, but to say that its akin to a civil war when there's a unilateral mechanism for unification and there's been lasting peace for decades... Feels a little reductionist.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Ireland - "You first"

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Can...can they even find Ireland on the map?

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