LMAO FUCK NO
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Wow what a time to be alive. You can buy a whopper at McDonald’s now. Imagine that. What a day for the people of this great nation.
This is what I’ve been saying the whole time. If we open up third party app stores, get ready for the meta store to be the exclusive place to download instagram and the Microsoft store the exclusive place to get outlook/teams, both pumped full of tracking and junk that would have never been approved by Apple, diluting the iPhone experience for many.
android has allowed 3rd party app stores since day 1 so this is going to be an issue on the iPhone how?
Because google lets these players put apps in their store already chock full of all the tracking and junk they want. They know if they didn’t, they would open their own store and google would loose their cut.
I definitely agree that they will try, but I’m sure the average FB/Insta/Threads user won’t go through the process of installing a third party store just for those apps, particularly when they’re already available on the App Store. With something like Fortnite that’s not available I could see it. But with Meta products I doubt it, particularly with the older, less tech savvy crowd that tends to use them.
I wager meta and Microsoft etc the ones big enough to make their own store will pull their apps from apples App Store. Metas store will be the exclusive place to download instagram and what’s app, and the average user will begrudgingly download one extra app to get stuff working again and then forget about it and never open it again.
And just like Steam showed, most of them will come running back after realising what a mistake it was.
A ton of things only happen after it’s done on iPhone.
This is exactly what will happen. Every app with a large user base will move. Want to easily cancel a subscription? Good luck. Want to stop tracking? Have fun with that.
I do not want third party app stores.
I don’t think most end users are smart enough to figure out how to download alternative app stores so I don’t think that companies are going to lock themselves in to only offering their apps on a single storefront.
I am hoping this results in storefronts that offer exclusively open source and other projects that might not jive with Apple policies such as emulators or Hypervisors.
That being said I’m not downloading anything from the MS store app
Facebook will just disable the app with some warning and redirect people visiting from Safari.
This would have happened on Android already if it was going to happen
No, it wouldn't. The relevant companies aren't the ones that want that 30% cut back. They're the ones who want to be malware and are reigned in by Apple's policies.
Google lets them do whatever they want so they have no reason to add friction.
That’s fine, I’ll install the open source App Store that replicates the functionality of those apps without the bullshit (or straight up has modified versions that remove that garbage).
I’m almost certain the corporate internet will use this opportunity to further enshitify their platforms. But it will also give end-users more powerful tools to resist that enshitification.
In the end I think it’s better to give users more freedom to protect themselves. Not to put everything on a benevolent corporate daddy to protect the end-user.
Perhaps this is the reason enshitifacation wasn’t a thing until we were put into these locked down devices?
My first request for a 3rd party App Store would be for one that allows you to filter out anything with subscription models from results.
Oh, wait.
The only good thing about the walled garden was it kept terrible ideas like this from being possible
Get your popcorn, because this train wreck is going to be glorious.
I'm actually ok with this. Would love to see better premium games and more variety in the app ecosystem.
Yeah I also see this as a positive development. I don’t buy into the FUD about app stores that is discredited by none of it happening on Android. On the other hand, if this is what it takes for Microsoft to port their expanding game empire to iOS, then it could make iOS a viable gaming platform. Which in turn would both encourage other companies to start porting their games, and likely spillover into macOS, even if just via the existing iOS compatibility system on Apple-silicon Macs.
Remember when Apple had to allow 3rd party payment systems and still legally imposed a 27% fee on 3rd party payments, along with reporting requirements, even though those payments had nothing to do with Apple?
Is it possible that Apple will “allow” 3rd party app stores but still require apps on those stores to pass Apple’s App Review? And will try to impose that 27% fee or something similar on both app sales and in-app purchases through 3rd party app stores.
Apps can’t run on iOS unless they are code signed by Apple and 3rd party app stores won’t change that.
This is how I see it going. Alternative app stores will be available but apps will still need to be reviewed and signed by Apple. The alternative app store will be required to pay Apple for the privilege.
Unsigned side loads will never be permitted on Apple devices.
EU is not this dumb. DMA regulations are quite specific in what’s expected of tech giants. They’ll try to delay but in the end non-compliance will cost them.
Exactly. With the USB-C ruling, they explicitly made it so that other shenanigans like "you can only use original Apple USB-C cables" would not be allowed. They know companies will try everything legally possible to bend the rules.
This happened in the Netherlands and the authority didn’t seem to think the 27% “commission” was a problem. Hopefully Brussels has a better-designed regulation.
I know this is apple enthusiasts but I'm glad to see people here talking about how shit this is going to end up being for consumers. Everyone on reddit always acted like Apple's walled garden was something people hate, rather than it being the feature we all want as IOS users.
There’s a stereotype that Apple enthusiasts are incapable of recognizing the stupid side of Apple. It’s annoying because we’ve usually already bitched about it and moved on before all the PC bros catch on and try to make a big “gotcha” out of it. It’s fine for a good circle jerk, but it’s not actually going to make Apple enthusiasts just suddenly choose windows.
They can do w/e fk they want, it doesn’t mean I’ll download anything from that crapstore 😌
I'm pretty sure Netflix and YouTube got into games to position themselves as video game storefronts on iOS later and optionally pivot into full blown app stores next. All the big tech players know that money is made on taking a cut of in-app purchases in games with predatory mechanics.
It’s gonna be modern streaming / cable all over again. No more single well ran App Store/service, hello endless shitty marketplace
You’ve never used an Android have you?
99.9% of people will never touch a store out of the default.
I don't know why this is such a surprise to people.
Android has allowed sideloading since it's inception, Samsung has had an app store for as long as they've had phones, Xiaomi has one, f-droid exists, etc.
And developers still vastly prefer to put their apps on Play Store because that's just where most users are. This isn't the end of the App Store and the hyperbole in this thread is ridiculous.
The hyperbole is years of Apple propaganda as for why the user base should fight with Apple against this cause
Which App Store did they have on the Samsung D500?
Backdoors AND Windows