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Google glass, these spying eyeglasses that google made a huge push for back in like 2015. Turns out even then nobody wanted google spying on everything they can see, and going out in public looking like a hailcorporate tool.
That was less so because of the privacy issues and more because they were very experimental but google billed them as viable. If google had stuck to it and fixed the issues I would argue they would be a bit of a thing today.
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Oh god, where do I even start?
- VidMe and Vlare.
- Vanillo.
- 3D TV's.
- Onecoin.
- XML.
- Ubuntu Touch.
- OS/2 WARP. (unfortunately.)
- Mir and Unity. Not the game engine.
- PeerTube.
- Foldable smartphones.
- Virtual assistants.
- Dual-screen smartphones.
- Ruqqus.
- Zune.
- Windows Phone.
- Firefox OS.
- Silverlight.
- Tru64.
- Theranos.
- ZTE Hawkeye.
- PlayStation Home.
- There.
To be fair, at least Theranos and Onecoin were outright scams. They were never intended to be the next big thing so much a get even richer quick scheme.
Also, why XML? It's used everywhere.
I had to do a double take there. I read Theranos as Thanos the first time around :)
Virtual assistants weren't as big as expected, but I wouldn't say they flopped.
Also, peertube, foldable smartphones, linux mobile (ubuntu touch might be an exception) are all still in early stages, its a bit early to say they flopped.
- Zune / Windows phone
- Smart glasses
- GNU Hurd
- Microsoft Silverlight
- Firefox OS / Devices
- (soon) SpaceX / Blue Origin
- Make America Great Again π€£
What was GNU Hurd?
A kernel made by GNU
I believe there is a fork of Firefox OS made for flip phones.
Make America Great Again
I'd argue that MAGA was successful for its true purpose. It is a slogan that perfectly encapsulates a reactionary mindset. Actually improving America is secondary.
Crypto
Please specify which "crypto"?
Cryptography is doing just fine, thank you very much. I presume you meant "cryptocurrency" here?
Bitcoin should have led to global currency reform, for a start. That failed. It could still lead to energy reform and other important societal progress. But regulation and other factors are killing it.
Bitcoin and its alternatives could never have been a currency. It's eminently unsuited to that role. (It's great for Ponzi schemes, extortion schemes, and other criminal enterprises mind.) And how does "using more energy than a medium-sized nation while doing three orders of magnitude fewer transactions than even ONE payment processor" translate to "energy reform"?
Please, dude, stop being a cryptobro. It's a really bad look.
I've spent too much time explaining currency theory to purple who aren't really interested. So if you have a specific question I can answer it. But not many questions and not a debate.
humans
- smartwatches: flopped hard because they couldn't prove their value over your phone. They're slowly coming back now as companies see their value lies in a few key things like fitness
- smart wear (mostly google, as usual)
- I guess a lot ar / vr stuff was hyped before the tech was really ready and went nowhere
- and as others have mentioned most stuff related to web3 and blockchain
- quibi?
One could arguably say the PC game "Star Citizen". A decade later and close to half a billion raised and still nowhere near completion
Vidme and Vlare, which were both potential alternatives to YouTube but were shut down due to lack of funding.
This starts to make sense when you realize that YouTube was confirmed to NOT be making a making a profit as late as 2015, and potentially still isn't. Apparently, having a profitable video streaming business is just hard. The only reason that Google can do it is because they're rich AF and can afford to do the shotgun method of continuing to operate it at a loss for a long time and hope it becomes profitable eventually.
PeerTube :(
Huh? Peertube is probably the second strongest activitypub based project after Mastodon, at least going by fediverse stats.
Youtube and Twitter are bigger, but I think the fediverse is a long term project, and organic, active and growing userbase, meeting real use cases, attracting development all while fulfilling an underlying vision are the criteria for success, and I think it's pretty good on those measures.
The year of ~~desktop linux~~ Peertube supremacy will be coming soon!
There was supposed to be a disc the size of a quarter to replace DVD's.
I'm curios about this!
Most if not all of Elon Musks ideas. And that theranos thing that's been in the news.
Which of musk's ideas were going to be big but flopped? I can't think of any.
With Elon, it's easy to give examples, because he could brush his teeth and will claim it's going to revolutionize everything.
The hyperloop proposed 10 years ago was supposed to revolutionize transportation and get you between SF and LA in an hour. It's totally dead in the water now.
The hyperloop is odd actually. Musk didn't actually want to do it, he just tweeted out some random thing as a reaction to the price of California's high speed rail proposal, but at that point his fanbase was used to him just doing crazy things so they piled on him. That's why he set up that competition, to see if it was viable.
Source: his biography
Besides, that it doesn't matter if musk just claims something, anyone can claim something. Anything he's gotten behind has succeeded.
Anything heβs gotten behind has succeeded.
Like Twitter.
Musk didn't own twitter when I made that comment. Twitter has revealed how bad he's gotten. I don't think my comment applies anymore.
He didn't just passively tweet about it, he wrote a white paper, built a test track costing no less than $37 million, sponsored competitions from 2015-2019 for who could build the best pod, went on television interviews explaining his idea and claimed it was easy. And he has recently promised building a new test track after all of his fans moved on to doge coin and stopped caring about hyperloop. He's never claimed his fans pushed him to do this. To say "he never wanted to do it " is a dishonest and contradictory analysis.
Also, you are just moving the goalposts now. You asked me which Elon Musk idea was supposed to be big but flopped. Now you say it doesn't matter what he claimed is supposed to happen, he has to back it. Excuse me, is that what anyone believes the word "idea" means? In order for something to be an idea do you have to invest in it? And apparently investing $37 million is not enough for something to be considered an idea. You are making a fool of yourself.
Ok, ok maybe it's not fair to say he never wanted to do it, so it's a good thing I didn't. Look there's no need to get worked up. He did say his fans pushed him to do it, in his biography. You can go read it if you want, it's probably available at a nearby library. The competition was sponsored by SpaceX and the white paper based on a previously existing concept and written mostly by other engineers. Musk just took all the credit.
I'm not trying to move the goalposts here. I'm just referring to the original question, in response to your example of musk claiming toothbrushing is revolutionary. Which I know is exaggerated obviously, but my point is that musk claiming something does not make it the next big thing. Musk may claim lots of things but the ideas he actually believes in enough to personally work on have succeeded.*
*At least so far. Personally I think the boring company thing is going to be a total flop, but it's too early to say for sure.
Ok, ok maybe itβs not fair to say he never wanted to do it, so itβs a good thing I didnβt.
Yet you say "Musk didnβt actually want to do it" in the message I replied to.
Are you sure it's totally dead in the water?
The top speed recorded is 288 mph and hasn't been beaten in 3 years. This isn't even faster than the fastest train at 374 mph which doesn't need vacuum tubes. Considering that hyperloop is just a fast train in a vacuum to make it go even faster, you'd expect it to at least beat trains after 10 years of work. So you tell me.
I think it's supposed to be more efficient, not just fast. I worked with a guy who helped design Maglev trains for China. With my limited knowledge, I'd think that a train floating above a track with no friction and being propelled by a magnetic wave has more potential that a train in a tube. I'm not familiar with the power and technology it takes to create that magnetic wave, but I still think it has more potential. I should have asked how the wave was created, but I was too amazed that the technology even existed.
Idk, I think any argument that hyperloop is more energy efficient goes out the window when you consider the energy costs of having to keep depressurized a 500 mile long tube.
The Internet as a tool for empowerment of the weak against the powerful, as medium for enhancing democratic participation, as an opportunity to better exercise and protect fundamental freedoms.
Turned out to be a militarized space, a tool for mass surveillance and the spreading of disinformation campaigns, in the hand of a few gigantic actors (funded by In-Q-Tel or otherwise connected to the USG...)
IPFS?
It's been years, and it's still as slow and unreliable as a when I first heard of it.
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