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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 146 points 11 months ago (4 children)

OMFG I NEED TO BUY ALL THE TOILETTE PAPER POSTHASTE

[–] Phanlix@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Dude for real. A cheap bidet attachment for your toilet is the way to go.

First off, a bidet is better than toilet paper. I've been using it for years, and it cleans you 100%. I use basically 1 square of TP to dry myself after, and it's always completely clean. If you had a bird shit on your arm would you just wipe it off with paper and call it a day?

I laughed at all my friends who made fun of me for getting one on all my toilets after the great TP shortage of 2021, and a few of them ended up switching over.

For the apocalypse I have a camping toilet with a foot operated bidet. I mean I already use it when car camping, and I have a hand bidet for backpacking.

Solar panels are also in play. I also bought a freeze dryer and have about 5 deers worth of freeze dried jerky, and buy and freeze dry on sale fruit and veggies pretty regularly. I try to maintain around a 1-2 year supply of on hand food. A few steel plates, ar-15 pistol, and enough ammo to hold off the upper floor for quite a while too, but that's another conversation. I'm as ready to go as I can though, let's do this.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Is there a trick I’m missing? Spray my butthole for 30 seconds and I need pretty much as much TP, actually more because the first batches get wet.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

No, but realistically the argument that bidets are better for the environment is kind of shit anyway.

You do it for a clean butthole. For a guy like me with a pair of legs belonging to a werewolf, you might end up wiping more but the end result is a clean ass without taking a shower. Worth.

[–] Phanlix@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If your stream is at the max setting that's comfortable and you move around a bit and make sure to get the whole area I've got nothing for you other than a recommendation to up the fiber in your diet.

I did get a nicer one that can just about peel the skin off on the highest setting, but even the lower quality one I have on the main bathroom downstairs gets me completely clean. I do tend to use it longer than 30 seconds, I'm pretty thorough about the rinse process.

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A cheap bidet attachment is only good in areas with warm water. The tap water here is ice cold in winter.

[–] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still blast icy cold water in the winter. My butthole isn't picky

[–] llamapocalypse@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Adds another dimension to your username for sure

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

LMFAO fantastic

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I’m thinking we set up our cooperative farm/compound in Anchorage. It’s gorgeous, and one of the places least likely to be affected by climate change disasters.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Canadians might still pose a problem, tho. Be sure to stock on bottle caps

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Not with my best in class armor, and arsenal of 500 mini nukes that I definitely did NOT acquire in the magic cheat room.

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[–] Blackout@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Finite@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

This comment is quite the rabbit hole for a solar storm

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool. I'll go to your house.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

TOILET PARTY PAPER, WOOOOOOOOO!

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This most extreme level can cause complete HF (high frequency) radio blackouts on the entire sunlit side of the Earth, lasting for a number of hours.

So, is that really it? A HF radio blackout? I can't imagine most of us would even notice if HF were disrupted. I don't know the physics involved, but if VHF/UHF were hit it would be a much bigger problem.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The carrington event knocked out telegraphs all over the world in the 1800s.

That’s the most powerful geomagnetic storm on record. It induced so much current in the telegraph wires that they literally melted.

In the 1800s that wasn’t a huge deal. But if it happened today, billions of dollars of electrical infrastructure could be rendered useless, and stockpiles of replacements are already non existent. It would take years to recover.

But this is not that strong of a storm, so I doubt it’ll do anything but cause some pretty lights and maybe ground a few flights due to communications issues.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And I’m sure any affected areas and satellites will be shutdown for that period to reduce any operational risk.

So less planes falling and more planes delayed.

Same for network communications as items are routed around certain areas or via some methods like fiber vs others.

[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Planes wouldn't just fall out of the sky anyways lmao. Even if planes lost communications completely they are still operational flying machines. It would just be very difficult to coordinate planes landing at that point. I don't know about the protocols, but I'm sure there exist failsafes to coordinate air traffic in the event of radio communication loss.

[–] 520@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It would be a bit more serious than a loss of communication. The electronics in the plane would be completely melted. Including the ones responsible for controlling the plane.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 15 points 11 months ago

Airplanes are designed to withstand the current, voltage, and EMP effects of lightning strikes, whose local fields are several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything the sun has ever thrown at the earth.

Any solar-originated pulse strong enough to "completely melt" any electronics in the plane will kill everyone and everything on the daylight-side of the planet, and probably strip the entire atmosphere.

[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Why and how would the electronics in an airplane be melted? Airplanes are naturally a Faraday cage, and all the components are going to be EMF shielded anyways.

The only thing an airplane would need to worry about with a solar storm is the increase in radiation exposure, and even then it's only relevant for the Flight crew who have limits on how much radiation they can be exposed to per OSHA.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

That's not how earlths magnetic field induced current works...

The conductors on a plane are short, the induced current is tiny. Significant currents are produced in long conductors (transmission wires). Severely damaging the infrastructure they connect to, and potentially themselves.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

True and I didn’t mean to imply it. Went for the hyperbole you tend to see and did a poor job with it after all.

[–] j0hn@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I edited the post to use that URL instead, thanks!

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[–] snapoff@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why does the article include so many whatever they’re calling tweets now about aliens/conspiracy theories smh

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because social media is useless now.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It was useless before, too, so it's just still useless.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I hope someone can ELI5. I mean, we're told that sunlight/etc we see is 8 minutes old - it took 8 minutes to get from the sun to the earth. The radiation, light, etc all travel at the speed of light, neither slower nor faster.

If we can see anything on the sun, it happened 8 minutes ago. It's not like we're looking out over a Kansas field and see a tornado coming.

Further, there's this from a quick Google (while attempting to answer this question myself), from Oct 13 2023:

"How much warning do we have for solar storms? So it should come as no surprise that a team at NASA has been busily applying AI models to solar storm data to develop an early warning system that they think could give the planet about 30 minutes' notice before a potentially devastating solar storm hits a particular area."

So how are we getting a notice one or two days in advance here? Is the sun currently ejecting matter into space, intersecting the place in our orbit we'll occupy tomorrow (or the next day)? Or is this like predicting a volcanic eruption, basing it on other observable behavior?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 27 points 11 months ago

CMEs and solar flares do not travel at the speed of light, as they are not light

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The charged particles that affect our electrical and electronic systems have mass and therefore cannot travel at the speed of light... We can see the visible light effects of a flare and know that the slower-moving particles that will cause actual damage are on the way.

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

That was a very succinct explanation; two sentence refresher course. Thank you!

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

I would surmise they're talking about a system to let us know where the worst effects are happening so people can prepare. This article says the fastest storms take 15-18 hours to arrive and most are slower. https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 4 points 11 months ago

Yes, it's not just light, it's better to understand it as an ejection of super heated plasma. It is mass ( actually called a coronal mass ejection ) and maybe kinda comparable in ELI5 concept to a volcano eruption.

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[–] Xtremis77@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Now this will be a "Internet detox day" done right 😅

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m supposed to be on an airplane on December 1st. If the storm ends up happening on the 1st instead of the 30th, could that potentially mess with air traffic controllers and radio comms in the plane?

[–] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago

Possible but extremely unlikely.

[–] mozzribo@leminal.space 7 points 11 months ago

Hey guess what

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