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[–] Pillarist@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

One of the last messages from the developer of Sync had said they were considering making a Sync for Lemmy... The guy's attention to detail and customizability of Sync for Reddit has me hoping real hard for that.

[–] Classy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh my god if JDL made Sync for Lemmy I would buy it yesterday. I was a Sync Dev user for like 5 years, such a great app and the developer is amazing.

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[–] jargoggles@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Considering the Reddit API changes are leaving an enormous amount of mobile dev talent flapping in the breeze, I'm really looking forward to seeing some really innovative apps in the nearish future.

[–] pory@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I would actually spend money on Lemmy Sync. Though I'd also love if some of the Reddit app devs went grey hat and implemented token spoofing like Twidere on Android has for Twitter - that app lets me view my Mastodon "timeline" and Twitter timeline in the same feed by telling Twitter's API that it's totally the normal iPhone Twitter app.

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[–] riskable@kbin.social 70 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I may be just a pie-in-the-sky optimist but I think the duplicate communities thing will die down eventually. Natural selection will do it's thing and we'll all eventually settle in specific communities on specific instances.

Based on the nature of life itself all living things become specialized over time. This includes creatures, jobs, products, communities, etc. So what's likely to happen is some communities will die out or be abandoned while others will thrive and yet others will simply become more specialized.

Hypothetical example: /m/gifs on Kbin might become the place to find perfect loops and high quality/serious stuff while /m/gifs on some other instance might become the place for animated silliness.

[–] lrabbt@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think "duplicated" communities is a problem even on a centralized service, to a lesser degree, since you can create a community with same intentions, but different names (e.g. c/video, c/videos). I'm also optimistic they will sort out with time

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of duplicate communities on Reddit, it doesn't really matter.

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[–] b3r7@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I've been using Jerboa for Lemmy on Android. It's pretty good so far. Still getting the hang of Lemmy in general.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There are some bugs and an advance user may not like it but for a simple lurker as myself Jeroba has been working wonders. 100% recomend

[–] Radin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Are you really a lurker if you're already commenting? (Speaking as a recovering lurker)

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Same but its incredibility buggy and unintuitive for me

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[–] SouthernCross@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm on Android and it seems to me like there is no other app but Jerboa for Lemmy.

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[–] CaptainApathetic@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm attempting to set up a self hosted instance so that I can control who I'm Federated with or not. Probably will just keep it open though, and I'd have to be a real asshole to get my instance defederated anywhere lmao.

[–] riskable@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Can you do us all a favor and blog about your experience setting this up and running it somewhere? I'll follow you πŸ‘

I was thinking about making my own Federated kbin-like server (writing the code from scratch) as an academic exercise. I'm a full stack developer and it's the perfect thing to hone my non-embedded (full std) Rust skills and freshen my JavaScript skills.

I have several side projects going on at the moment (that I've been working on constantly for almost three years straight) and I need a mental break from that. I'd love to learn what's a pain in the ass VS what's good from a semi-layman's perspective so I can make something better.

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[–] knoland@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

This is the solution. With enough small instances, not only do we provide a wide range of options to users, but we also distribute the hosting costs across the community.

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[–] andobando@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

I am working on this. But I need help, shoot me a message if you're interested. https://github.com/ando818/lemmy-ui-svelte

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[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 39 points 1 year ago

I feel for all the devs in any way associated with current activities. We need this and this and this and this. Bloody, hell, man. I know, know. Me too!

Thanks to all the amazing contributors out there!

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Since instances love to defederate so much, we need an app to connect everything together again.

[–] b00m@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since instances love to defederate so much

Hyperbole?

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[–] MrFlamey@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Yes! I was just reading a post from the authors of Lemmy on lemmy.ml, and noticed I was not logged in. I assume that because lemmy.ml is another instance, I can't log in with my usual lemmy.world credentials, but since it is federated I should be able to post, correct? However, I am not sure how, and I think a lot of people would just try logging in normally, since it's just Lemmy, right? Lemmy.ml might be safe, but I think it could be possible to confuse people into entering their password for fediverse sites on malicious instances, which steal their credentials. It's a little bit confusing to noobs like myself to be honest.

An app that can manage credentials and post properly across compatible instances and show informative messages to notify the user if and why they cannot post would be very useful, managing multiple accounts seamlessly even more useful!

[–] petertree@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well think about it with this crude kind of inaccurate analogy.

You have a windows laptop. Your friend has a windows laptop. When you're logged in to your laptop you can send your friend email. And see his emails to you.

But just because your laptop is windows and his laptop is windows doesn't mean your windows log-in would work on his right? Lemmy works more like that. Reddit is kind of like one large windows laptop and everyone gets their own keyboard. Your log in works no matter which keyboard you use.

You may notice that Lemmy communities have the @ symbol like an email. So tech@lemmy.world is different from tech@lemmy.ml (just like how robert@yahoo.com is not the same account as robert@gmail.com). They MAY be made by the same Robert but there's no guarantee.

You really just need one account. So in the communities tab from your instance (Lemmy.world) you can search for the community on the other instance (Lemmy.ml) for example tech@lemmy.ml.

Your account let's you post and comment on @lemmy.ml posts

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I assume that because lemmy.ml is another instance, I can’t log in with my usual lemmy.world credentials, but since it is federated I should be able to post, correct?

I think the difference is whether you’re viewing lemmy.ml directly (as in, the URL in your browser starts with https://lemmy.ml/), or whether you’re viewing it through lemmy.world (or whichever site you have an account on).

[–] drone509@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish there was a "log in from other instance" button, but I don't know how you'd implement that.

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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a non issue tbh.

We will get there. I'm having a shit load of fun on here with you guys.

The nature of this platform is so that what we need will gradually happen based on the work we put it. I'm not into tech anything so I'm just thinking here.

I'm literally here for the journey

[–] ZippyZiggurat@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy creators are overloaded with the massive afflux of people generating 100s of bug reports and questions on top of all their work.

Make sure you donate to help them spend more time on the project!

https://join-lemmy.org/donate

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[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This may be the (realistic) β€œfix” to duplicate communities in multiple instances. No fix on the server end, just* a reader app that can amalgamate the feeds so it is transparent to the end user.

* and by β€œjust a reader” I’m naturally referring to a Herculean effort to make a simple, beautiful app that’s cross-platform capable and which a noob can navigate without having to actually understand the fediverse.

[–] DannyBoy@mastodon.ie 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

@Lemmyin I just want that Infinity for Reddit get Lemmy and Kbin added to it.
By far the best Reddit client. I really love the gesture navigation on it.
There's no other app close to it.

[–] KidsTryThisAtHome@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

For me it was Relay. Absolutely perfect in every way, and the gesture navigation was so intuitive. Currently using jerboa for Lemmy and excited to see where it goes or what other apps become available for it

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[–] penisthightrap@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

holy shit we're devolving back to rage memes? Last I saw this shit I rode a yellow bus to school

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Conman_Signor@lemmy.one 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Jerboa does this. I get content from all instances and I can block and subscribe as I want. I have no complaints at all as of yet. If you are using android, I highly suggest using jerboa

[–] Aqueduct4367@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm using Jerboa now with multiple accounts. Currently you have to select which account you're actively using. Each account has separate feed/subscriptions, which I prefer.

I don't see an option for 1 combined feed with all accounts subscriptions. Would be nice to have as an option though.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm actually kind of enjoying the partitioned nature of the fed. I use the Jerboa app when on mobile to access Lemmy, and when I'm on my PC I use kbin.

When I was on reddit, I'd switch from mobile to PC or vice versa and just see all the content I just browsed on my other device. Now it's a fresh batch every time I make the switch (which is pretty regularly!).

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to a unifier. I remember back when AOL Instant Messenger and the 5 or so similar IM services were the cream of the internet, and keeping up with friends on each was a real pain in the ass. Then a program called "Trillian" came along and linked them all together with one clean interface, and it was fucking amazing. I could definitely see the fed benefiting from a similar service.

[–] The_weapon_x@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trillian was good stuff. Then came Pidgin, which was free and open source if I recall correctly. At one point I had AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Gtalk, and ICQ all going at once.

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[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It feels like every post on Lemmy at the moment is "Why isn't this Reddit? Make it Reddit!"

"Just an idea", if you want Reddit, go to Reddit.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

There's a slight difference in wanting the fediverse having the same usability as Reddit and it actually being Reddit.

[–] satan_6661@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

My brother in christ no one wants reddit premium

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We had reddit. They are going to take it away on July 1st. We are looking for a replacement. Lemmy doesn't have to be that replacement, but that is what people are looking for.

[–] psycrow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What we want is our shit in one place, without one asshole controlling what we see. Is that really such an impossible dream?

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I'm waiting for an account switcher like Sync has. You could log in to one, type a comment and before submitting choose one of your other logged in accts to comment from.

[–] SpraynardKruger@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Pretty sure Jerboa on Android has the ability to add multiple accounts.

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

keep up the posting, keep up the support, keep up the donations, and it’ll happen

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Commenting from the Memmy App beta for iOS.

Still early days, but it’s doing the basics quite well. They and Mlem are hoping for a 6/30 App Store release, so interesting times ahead.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah it's so odd to me that your instance aggregates everything for you as opposed to the client doing it for you.

The instance doing it is what makes this work at scale. If there are 10 big instances where most of the content is generated, the traffic between them scales linearly with the number of posts.

If your client is doing the indexing, not only is this a lot of computations for a phone that runs on a battery, but the amount of traffic for each server scales with the global number of users, which is untenable for most servers.

If you really want to be immune to defederation (not quite literally, but in the ways that matter to you), your solution is to deploy your own home instance and federate with communities you browse. This is the client that will be doing the indexing. Of course you can get individually defederated but if you're not a nuisance I can't see why.

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[–] laxidaisy@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will come a day when instances advertise the number of other instances they are federated with and it becomes a feature, not a bug. I'm not a fan of nazis, but also not a fan of whimsical de-federation. The magazines or subreddits that prosper and thrive will be the best moderated ones. Defederating an entire server because of one poor sub/magazine is dumb.

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Who wants to write and test the code patches? ...

::silence so pure that it is almost a sound in itself::

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