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[–] UFO64@lemmy.world 102 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We need to have ownership our own products again. This needs to be enshrined in law.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] colin@lemmy.uninsane.org 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

will 2024 finally be the year of Linux on the car?

[–] Octopus1348@thelemmy.club 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It already is. If the car has a monitor, it's probably running Linux as a base.

[–] BugFinder@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I found a horrible finding recently. There are some critical infrastructure like power gens that run windows 10 in their hmi

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 78 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I jailbroke my Mercedes and now it is 1,000,000x better!!!!!!!

[Image of YouTube thumbnail feat. YouTuber with mouth open pointing at car with matrix code in background]

[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The mouth open part is so common but why it just looks stupid and is now synonymous with clickbait

[–] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I comment and call their cringiness out, especially if it's an older person who shouldn't be acting 8 while providing any kind of educational material (last one was fixing something on a car engine).

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

By doing so you are engaging with the content which is exactly what the clickbait is supposed to get you to do. Just block them and move on. Any engagment boosts their content.

[–] milkytoast@kbin.social 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

shit like this should be illegal. the hardware is already there, why pay wall it. or, if it gonna do that, make the product cheaper without the features

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 18 points 11 months ago

They’ll just claim that the base price is n + 5000 and you get it for n because the features are disabled.

[–] colin@lemmy.uninsane.org 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

but in practice it’s the opposite. electric cars have set the precedent that cars being serviceable only by the manufacturer is OK. ICE automobiles are on their way to being banned in a decade or two. that’s a huge opportunity for automakers to bring practices like these to the wider market, and policy makers will defend them because it’s hard to say “yes to electric cars, but only if …”

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

The fact that I'm forced to buy a car just to participate in modern life, but then not really own that car is infuriating. I'd rather just have functioning public transit, not this abomination of capitalism that electric cars seem to herald for us.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

why pay wall it

Because money!

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

So much evil. Just so much. And it's expanding, exponentially. Where are the evil levels going to measure at, in another 15 years. I'm too old (cbf learning) to make a meme, but I see lilo and stitch, but over stitches face is all currently existing corporations, and that drawing of the bad levels she drew.

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 months ago

no car should connect to the internet, ever.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

Not the first to do this, but that doesn't make it okay.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Here's an idea... When they tell you that on the showroom floor, tell them you're not interested in such shenanigans, and walk out. It worked against BMW, and it'll work against Mercedes too

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this is exactly why i will continue to drive my car, which is literally older than me. and if it ever breaks down, if possible, i will buy another toyota with no constant internet connection. i just don't need that kind of extortion in my life.

[–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m going to venture to guess that many folks will go the route of Cubans and continuously rebuild their old cars.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why not? if the spare parts are available and people are willing to endure the horrible fuel mileage, let them.

[–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can buy a lot of gas for the premium you’d pay but buying a brand new car.

Every time I run the numbers to buy a new car vs keeping my 2014 Taco, the Taco wins, even with its abysmal gas mileage.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

now imagine that with a 20 year old car whose engine regularly gets 400k km and gets up to 40mpg (around 5-6L/100km). and did i mention that i paid 2000€ for it? why would i now spend 50-100k on an electric car that lasts 20 years tops?

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Wrong slogan, you need the EA Sports one: It's in the game.

[–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

You wouldn't download a car, more horsepower

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You paid for the motor, now let's talk about the using the motor fee, the brakes fee, the windows fee, the turning the radio on fee, the turning the radio off fee, the turning the radio to something other than ABBA fee, the airbag subscription fee and any other thing we can get you for while you happen to be over this particular barrel.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

I risk it won't take long for someone to crack it.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now I'm definitely not getting an electronic car.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of good electric cars. Don't buy one with subscription features.

[–] Jayemecee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know the market? What would you consider to be the cheapest good option?

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

It depends on your country, your budget, your definition of good, and your driving needs.

A second hand Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt are more affordable, but don't suit everyone's needs.
An MG4 is a great budget new car, but can be out of some people's price range.
A Polestar 2 is a comfortable option from a manufacturer who cares about the environment.
A Porsche Taycan is a performance car for a fraction of the price of a petrol supercar.

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone buy that?

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

When literally every car manufacturer does it and does it on something that is technically a luxury, but most people have already got used to (like heated seats or apple carplay). The public has long revealed that they have basically no immunity towards these sorts of high level collusion tactics. And the government agencies meant to stop it seem to think it only counts if all the car manufacturers met in some sort of 'let's be evil' conference to plan it out, instead of, you know, just copying off what everyone else is doing.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

They’re starting this off on the EQS which are usually bought by people less sensitive to money. For them, $1200 for more power will be an afterthought and they’ll pay it. That will get it entrenched before they push it down the stack.

[–] monkE@feddit.ch 6 points 11 months ago

Seriously this kind of behaviour is just bs. Anyways the piracy gang will always find modders. Why why do the bs in the first place.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! I can’t go from 0 to over the speed limit in less than 3 seconds. What am I going to do‽

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Pay $1200, obviously

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Annual.

Products aren't services, and bastards pretending otherwise are half of what's wrong with modern capitalism.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What the fuck was that and why did it crack me up so much? 😂😂😂😂

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Lemmy users learning what an engine map is.

[–] vsh@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lemmy users when a premium product is not for the poor: 😭😱