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[–] Plume@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gotta say, I'm surprised it was even allowed in the first place over there... I mean... It's Russia we're talking about...

[–] halva@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

russian transition procedure was really liberal btw, the only problem was that it wasn't covered by national insurance (didn't cost too much tho, maybe 2000 usd for the whole ordeal from the commission to surgery)

they're really just attacking the smallest minority that hurt absolutely nobody

[–] valpackett@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not "really liberal" if you're forced to interact with psychiatrists and commissions and whatever the hell to change your documents. "At least you weren't forced to have 'The' surgery™ to change your documents" is a really, really low floor. Argentina set the standard in 2012: self ID means self ID, you just submit your request and get a new birth certificate, then submit that do refresh the ID card.

[–] halva@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

while that's true, that's also about what id expect in any other country (arguably even better, see putin's ptr server, belarus, where you have to "prove" you're trans for 2 years before starting anything)

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

There was a time when Russia was pushing the envelope more. There was a time when US television channels were self-censoring t.A.T.u girls kissing on stage. Putin did the country dirty in so many regards.

[–] hoyland@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Russia used to be one of few countries that was a destination for phalloplasty, mostly for people in eastern Europe (it was hard-to-impossible to find information in English, but the English-language transmasculine internet knew it was a thing). This was when US people largely went to Serbia.

[–] kosure@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Florida leading the way for Russia...